Brad,

Even if the bird eats the grape this time, a small seed may be blown 
in the wond to land and sprout somewhere else, don't you think? Or is 
it that there are only seedless grapes in the Scriptures? Not meant 
to be irreverente. Forgive my poor spelling. When I don't know 
something, I automatically go to the Spanish!

purple


At 10:49 PM 3/12/2008, you wrote:
>I think there is discernment in such, and first off to follow the 
>Holy Spirit's leading. Sometimes  talking with people full on pushes 
>them away, but nurturing the ripening grape is best, it isn't our 
>blame if the bird eats the grape before it falls in the hand of the 
>harvester. Of course we don't want that and want to do what we can 
>to avoid it, but it isn't oru decision to make for them. Could be 
>your friend is called ot talk to this person and maybe you not.
>
>Brad
>
>
>At 09:20 PM 3/12/2008, you wrote:
>>Yes......my thoughts exactly.  There is a person with whom my 
>>friend and I used to go to church, it seems he is involved in the 
>>gay life style now....my friend feels we should go and try to talk 
>>to him....I don't feel that way.  This man is married, and I sent 
>>him an email  tryng to encourage him to work out the issues in his 
>>marriage....I said I wasn't writing to condemn him....or judge 
>>him.....I was a member of the crowd who couldn't throw the first 
>>stone....but I felt marriages were a forever thing....and we should 
>>do all we can to save them........my friend says what if something 
>>should happen to this man  and we would have wished we would have 
>>goen to him.  He isn't listening to his wife of 23 years....don't 
>>really feel he'd listen to me....besides I don't feel comfortable 
>>going to talk to him.  I said to my friend the very best thing we 
>>can do is pray.......
>>Thanks for your thoughts
>>Rhonda
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad D" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 11:12 PM
>>Subject: Re: is this true?
>>
>>
>>>Rhonda,
>>>
>>>Personally I see it this way. God gave us a gift of freedom to 
>>>choose. He told us from the beginning choose life or choose death, 
>>>blessing or cursing. If he, himself,  gave everyone that choice, I 
>>>don't think he holds us to a higher level of responsibility  for 
>>>others than he does himself. Does he blame Christ for those who 
>>>refused him? Those who mocked and cursed him?  We are told to 
>>>spread the good news but also to live quiet godly lives. It 
>>>is  amazing to me when folks become Christians they feel they  now 
>>>have to be SuperChrists and suddenly responsible for the world's 
>>>salvation... I once was as a youngin' in the Lord.   I believe we 
>>>are held accountible for "our" actions and beliefs, but not that 
>>>of others, but that is just my personal thought.
>>>
>>>Brad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>At 04:31 PM 3/12/2008, you wrote:
>>>>Not sure....if that is the one or not!!  it just  goes back to 
>>>>what are we responsible to God for?  What does it mean  to be our 
>>>>brother's  keeper?
>>>>Thanks
>>>>
>>>>Rhonda
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad D" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 8:24 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: is this true?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Not sure if this is what she is referring to...
>>>>>
>>>>>Matt 11:19-23
>>>>>The Unrepenting Cities
>>>>>20 Then He began to denounce the cities in which most of His 
>>>>>miracles were done, because they did not repent.
>>>>>21 "Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the 
>>>>>miracles had occurred in Tyre and Sidon which occurred in you, 
>>>>>they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.
>>>>>22 "Nevertheless I say to you, it will be more tolerable for 
>>>>>Tyre and Sidon in the day of judgment than for you.
>>>>>23 "And you, Capernaum, will not be exalted to heaven, will you? 
>>>>>You will descend to Hades; for if the miracles had occurred in 
>>>>>Sodom which occurred in you, it would have remained to this day.
>>>>>
>>>>>Perhaps she can find the passage being this is her belief? Not 
>>>>>for your sake necesarily in and of itself, but her own. That is 
>>>>>to say that its best to lay foundational beliefs on biblical 
>>>>>references we know rather than "I think it says somewhere in the 
>>>>>bible that..." plus in these little searches we gain knowledge 
>>>>>and gems along the way :).
>>>>>
>>>>>Brad
>>>
>>>
>>>Best Regards,
>>>
>>>Brad Dunse
>>>
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>
>Best Regards,
>
>Brad Dunse
>
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