Phil,
I am praying for a solution for Gretchen that only our Lord can provide.  I 
am also praying for you and Sandy and His love and strength for you both.
Virgie and Hoshi
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:08 PM
Subject: Gretchen On Thursday


> Kathy,
>
> Frankly, I have come to the point that I don't believe Gretchen will
> straighten out unless she goes through the system and that includes 
> prison.
> She lived the life when all her choices were Christian but she can't live 
> in
> an open life style and stay clean.  It is so unfortunate for the children
> but it appears to me we are going to have to raise her children for her 
> and
> without her eventually.  Of course, the 6 year old has his dad and his dad
> is super protective of him and very parental, too.  The 10 year old stays 
> at
> my son's house all the time and is even getting his own bedroom so he 
> likely
> will grow up there with my son and his family and with his grandparents 
> here
> but a little more in the background, which is ok, too.  If Gretchen will
> follow through with prayer sessions, with me or someone else, she has a 
> much
> greater chance of seeing the truth.  If not, she'll have to find it by
> herself and that will be the hard way, too.  I'm frankly just not very
> optimistic at this stage and will remain so until I see some action on her
> behalf.
>
> Phil.