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All I can say to that is wow good one


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----- Original Message -----
From: "BD" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 8:48 AM
Subject: Athiest professor demonstrating faith


> From our friend Mat in Texas:
>
> >An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem
> >science has with God, the Almighty.  He asks one of his new students to
> >stand...
> >
> >Prof:  You are a Christian, aren't you, son?
> >
> >Student:  Yes, sir.
> >
> >Prof:  So you believe in God?
> >
> >Student:  Absolutely, sir.
> >
> >Prof:  Is God good?
> >
> >Student:  Sure.
> >
> >Prof:  Is God all-powerful?
> >
> >Student:  Yes.
> >
> >Prof:  My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal
> >him.  Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill.  But God
> >didn't.  How is this God good then, hmm?
> >
> >(Student is silent.)
> >
> >Prof:  You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fella.  Is
> >God good?
> >
> >Student:  Yes.
> >
> >Prof:  Is Satan good?
> >
> >Student:  No.
> >
> >Prof:  Where does Satan come from?
> >
> >Student:  From...God...
> >
> >Prof:  That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
> >
> >Student:  Yes.
> >
> >Prof:  Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything.
> >Correct?
> >
> >Student:  Yes.
> >
> >Prof:  So who created evil?
> >
> >(Student does not answer.)
> >
> >Prof:  Is there sickness, immorality, hatred, ugliness?  All these
> >terrible things exist in the world, don't they?
> >
> >Student:  Yes, sir.
> >
> >Prof:  So, who created them?
> >
> >(Student has no answer.)
> >
> >Prof:  Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe
> >the world around you.  Tell me, son...have you ever seen God?
> >
> >Student:  No, sir.
> >
> >Prof:  Tell us if you have ever heard your God?
> >
> >Student:  No, sir.
> >
> >Prof:  Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God?
> >Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?
> >
> >Student:  No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
> >
> >Prof:  Yet you still believe in Him?
> >
> >Student:  Yes.
> >
> >Prof:  According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science
> >says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?
> >
> >Student:  Nothing. I only have my faith.
> >
> >Prof:  Yes, faith...and that is the problem science has.
> >
> >Student:  Professor, is there such a thing as heat?
> >
> >Prof:  Yes.
> >
> >Student:  And is there such a thing as cold?
> >
> >Prof:  Yes.
> >
> >Student:  No sir. There isn't.
> >
> >(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)
> >
> >Student:  Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat,
> >mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have
> >anything called cold.  We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no
> >heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as
> >cold.  Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We
> >cannot measure cold.  Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat,
> >sir, just the absence of it.
> >
> >(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)
> >
> >Student:  What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as
> >darkness?
> >
> >Prof:  Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?
> >
> >Student:  You're wrong again, sir.  Darkness is the absence of
> >something.  You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing
> >light....But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and its
> >called darkness, isn't it?  In reality, darkness isn't.  If it were you
> >would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?
> >
> >Prof:  So what is the point you are making, young man?
> >
> >Student:  Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.
> >
> >Prof:  Flawed? Can you explain how?
> >
> >Student:  Sir, you are working on the premise of duality.  You argue
> >there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God.  You
> >are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can
> >measure.  Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity
> >and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either
> >one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact
> >that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the
> >opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor. Do you
> >teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?
> >
> >Prof:  If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of
> >course, I do.
> >
> >Student:  Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?
> >
> >(The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where
> >the argument is going.)
> >
> >Student:  Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at
> >work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor,
> >are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a
> >preacher?
> >
> >(The class is in uproar.)
> >
> >Student:  Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's
> >brain?
> >
> >(The class breaks out into laughter.)
> >
> >Student:  Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain,
> >felt it, touched or smelt it?  No one appears to have done so.  So,
> >according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable
> >protocol, science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due
> >respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?
> >
> >(The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face
> >unfathomable.)
> >
> >Prof:  I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.
> >
> >Student:  That is it sir... The link between man & God is FAITH. That is
> >all that keeps things moving & alive.
>
>

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