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I am sorry.  I don't mean to be prideful.  This is another reason not to
ask.  I don't want to ask with the wrong motivation.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kathy Du Bois" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: Whose On The Phone?


> Angel,
> Jesus himself instructs us to ask.  In pride, you are choosing to cut
> off your nose to spite your face.  Please be more careful with the
> Lord's grace.
> Kathy
>
>
> At 12:29 AM 8/22/2006, you wrote:
> >Perhaps you are rite with that.  I just am grateful to god for the things
he
> >is gracious enough to give me.  I shouldn't ask him for anything, but I
> >should be content with what he gives me.  I have been selfish and for
that I
> >am sorry.  God gives us good things because he is our father and he
enjoys
> >to see us happy, but we deserve nothing at all.  We truly need nothing at
> >all as we will live with him in heaven and these earthly bodies are just
> >habitations for our souls till we can live with him forever.  I will not
ask
> >for prayer in future.  Thank you for assisting me to see things more
> >clearly.  I will from now on praise and adore our lord constantly.
> >Everything else will be done according to his will, and all will work
> >together for good because I will praise and worship him.  Thank you so
much.
> >I will always be grateful to you.  I knew there was a reason I belonged
to
> >this wonderful and marvelous list.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 12:11 AM
> >Subject: Re: Whose On The Phone?
> >
> >
> > > Angel,
> > >
> > > If you need nothing more, then why don't you pray and ask the Lord not
to
> >do
> > > any more miracles for you or to help you because His cross is enough,
> > > according to the experience of the Eucharist.  We don't need Him for
our
> > > children that are drug addicts or criminals?  We don't need him
because we
> > > are sick and in physical need?  We don't need him because we are
> >financially
> > > broke?  You got one thing right; the cross is everything because
> >everything
> > > was finished there.  You need anything more than that and we all are
in
> > > trouble.  The Bible works fine the way it is for me.
> > >
> > > Phil.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 8:08 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Whose On The Phone?
> > >
> > >
> > > > The point in believing in the bible or in God is not to have him
make
> > > > miraculous things happen so we can love him, but because we want to
> >spend
> > > > our whole lives worshiping him and adoring him.  I believe his
sacrifice
> > > on
> > > > the cross which I experience each time I take the Eucharist and see
> >first
> > > > hand his precious body and blood as it is transformed before me
which is
> >a
> > > > miracle in itself is enough to believe in him and the bible.  I need
> > > nothing
> > > > else.
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Jeremy Gilley" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 6:33 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Whose On The Phone?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Questions of the decade.
> > > > That is where Faith comes in... I have heard that people say that
> > > > mericles don't happen in our time, only in the bible.  It just
boggles
> > > > my mind to think that people would think those kinds of things...
> > > > Mericles happen every day, from a baby being born healthy, all ten
> > > > fingers and toes, to seeing and feeling the sunshine on our faces,
to
> > > > placing a shirt on your back...
> > > > I am sorry, I do believe they exist, for they did not, what is the
point
> > > > in believing in the bible or GOD?
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: The Electronic Church [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On
> > > > Behalf Of Jenifer Gilley
> > > > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 6:28 PM
> > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > Subject: Re: Whose On The Phone?
> > > >
> > > > y are we trying to explain away a miracle?  if this didn't happen...
> > > > who's
> > > > to say miracles exist in the first place?  what makes one miracle
bigger
> > > > and
> > > > more powerful than another?  I believe Jesus Christ is the same
today,
> > > > yesterday and forever!  If he arose from the dead... y can't he
heal?  y
> > > >
> > > > can't he work wonders?
> > > > Jenifer gilley
> > > > check out my blog
> > > > http://claudastar.blogspot.com/
> > > > AIM: jenibear1998
> > > > msn
> > > > [log in to unmask]
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 5:47 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Whose On The Phone?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > It is possible?  We mustn't trust all we read.
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 2:50 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Whose On The Phone?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> Whatever you say Angel but what you described isn't a miracle.
What
> > > > they
> > > > >> described was a miracle because he made no such pre recorded
message.
> > > > >> Unless, of course, they lied about the whole thing and if they
made a
> > > > pre
> > > > >> recorded message to be sent later, then she lied by leaving that
> > > > little
> > > > >> detail out.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Phil.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >> From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > >> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 11:39 AM
> > > > >> Subject: Re: Whose On The Phone?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > I hate to say this, but a message can be scheduled to be sent
any
> > > > time
> > > > >> after
> > > > >> > it is recorded.  It will be sent at any pre prescribed time.  I
do
> > > > it
> > > > >> > myself.  If I think of a person's birthday, I will send them a
> > > > message
> > > > > and
> > > > >> > program the voice mail to have it delivered at midnight of the
> > > > person's
> > > > >> > birthday.  That way I don't have to call him that day if I am
busy
> > > > and
> > > > > the
> > > > >> > individual still receives my birthday wishes just as though I
> > > > waited
> > > > > till
> > > > >> > midnight to call him.  He may have indeed been praying for his
son
> > > > at
> > > > > that
> > > > >> > time, knowing his phone would be turned off and he would be in
the
> > > > air,
> > > > > he
> > > > >> > just programmed the message to be sent at that time.  It was a
very
> > > >
> > > > >> > nice
> > > > >> > gesture.
> > > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >> > From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > >> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > >> > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 11:58 AM
> > > > >> > Subject: Whose On The Phone?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > >      The Tennisons were speaking at a church camp.  Their
only
> > > > son
> > > > >> > > was in seminary.  That week, he was taking exams for his PHD.
> > > > His
> > > > >> > > mother said that during those three hours each day he was
taking
> > > > >> > > his exams, she would be on her knees praying for him.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >      The last day of his exams, he called his mother and said
he
> > > > >> > > wanted to talk to his dad.  His dad, he was informed, had
left
> > > > >> > > that morning and at that very moment, his dad was on the
airplane
> > > > >> > > flying to the next meeting.  Their son said that he was just
> > > > >> > > hoping to talk to his dad one more time before the last exam
but
> > > > >> > > he understood.  They hung up.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >      A little more than three hours later, their son called
his
> > > > >> > > mom to report that he felt he did well on his exams.  He
said,
> > > > "It
> > > > >> > > sure was nice to hear from dad before my exams, too."  Sister
> > > > >> > > Tennison said, she wasn't aware that his dad called him.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >      Later that day, sister Tennison received a call from her
> > > > >> > > husband.  He said that he had just landed and was checking
in.
> > > > >> > > Sister Tennison asked him how it was he was able to call
their
> > > > >> > > son.  He said, "I didn't call him.  I was on the airplane so
I
> > > > >> > > couldn't have called him."
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >      Calling her son back, he insisted his dad had called him
and
> > > > >> > > he could prove it.  He said that as he left his room, his
phone
> > > > >> > > rang.  Thinking it might be his mom calling back, he quickly
> > > > >> > > unlocked the door and ran for the phone but it had quit
ringing.
> > > > >> > > He played the message back.  It was his dad.  He said on the
> > > > tape,
> > > > >> > > "Son, this is dad.  I just wanted you to know I was praying
for
> > > > >> > > you today."  Sister Tennison heard the recording over the
phone
> > > > >> > > and said it was her husband's voice.  She asked her son to
check
> > > > >> > > the time of the recording.  He did and gave her the figures.
She
> > > > >> > > wrote them down.  She said, that time was the exact time her
> > > > >> > > husband would have still been on the airplane flying to their
> > > > next
> > > > >> > > meeting where she would be the next day.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >      When their cell phone bill came, there was a one minute
call
> > > > >> > > at that exact same time, but her husband's cell phone was
turned
> > > > >> > > off and in his carry on bag which was in the overhead storage
ben
> > > > >> > > of the airplane, at that exact hour and minute.  If Mr.
Tennison
> > > > >> > > didn't make that call, who did?
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Phil.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > He's ready when you are.
> > > > >> > > www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > --
> > > > >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > > > >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > > > >> > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.4/424 - Release Date:
> > > > 8/21/06
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > > > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.4/424 - Release Date:
8/21/06
> > > >

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