Sheila, I firmly believe the Bible does mention the Trinity, not by name but 
we learn about all three persons in the Trinity as we study the Bible and 
certainly this is shown in the Gospels.

I don't want to debate this in any way at all, because this list isn't for 
debate but to encourage one another (and you encourage me so much);  so I 
merely state this as what I believe the Scripture clearly teaches.

--
Carol - Reading, UK

To you, o Lord, I lift up my soul;
In You I trust, o my God.  . . .."  PS25:1-2 NIV.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: don't mock God


> It is a goodd thing you had the courage to debate with those who are so
> radically different in their beliefs than are we.  I usually just leave 
> them
> alone, as I feel nothing I can say will dissuade them from their belief
> system.  It is interesting to know the concept of the trinity wasn't
> established till the third century when some heretics said just as the
> Jehovah's witnesses do today there isn't a trinity.  This is where 
> tradition
> plays it's first part in the churches stand in so many things which we now
> take for granted.  No where in the bible does it mention the trinity,
> however, it was a concept which was handed down through Church tradition
> till the third century when it was finalized for us all.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sheila Killian" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 6:10 PM
> Subject: Re: don't mock God
>
>
>> Hello to all.
>> Oh Jenifer!
>> Thank you for sharing this with us! I love my Lord Jesus Christ with my
>> whole heart, soul, mind and strength! I was talking with a dear friend 
>> who
>> quite recently returned to being a jehova's witness after not practicing
> for
>> a number of years, and we were discussing our very different theologies.
>> She tried to tell me that Jesus was not the Son of God but that he is our
>> king. I told her kindly but very emphatically and with my entire heart 
>> and
>> soul that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. He is  my Lord and Savior! She
>> also wanted me to believe that the Holy Spirit is not a person and not
> part
>> of the Holy Trinity, He is only a spirit! I told her there is one God, in
>> three persons, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. We read passages
> to
>> each other from our two different translations of the bible, in some 
>> parts
>> similar and others dramatically different, and shared many points with
> each
>> other. This is the first time I really got into a theological discussion
>> with a good friend regarding the differences between Catholics and
> jehova's
>> witnesses. Please pray for her along with me. I love her very much and
>> greatly desire that she will come to believe in God and know Jesus Christ
> as
>> the Lord and Savior of us all!
>> Jesus, I trust in You!
>> Sheila and Vignette
>>
>> There is nothing concealed that will not be revealed,
>> nor secret that will not be known.
>> Therefore whatever you have said in the darkness will be heard in the
> light,
>> And what you have whispered behind closed doors will be proclaimed on the
>> housetops
>> Luke 12-2-3.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jenifer Gilley" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 2:03 PM
>> Subject: Fw: don't mock God
>>
>>
>> : Jenifer gilley
>> : check out my blog
>> : http://claudastar.blogspot.com/
>> : AIM: jenibear1998
>> : msn
>> : [log in to unmask]
>> : ----- Original Message -----
>> : From: "Barr Jenifer L" <[log in to unmask]>
>> : To: "Jeremy Gilley" <[log in to unmask]>; <[log in to unmask]>
>> : Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:40 AM
>> : Subject: FW: don't mock God
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> : Jenifer Barr
>> : ACS Detroit
>> :
>> :
>> : ________________________________
>> :
>> : From: Marcinick Molly
>> : Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 11:30 AM
>> : To: Barr Jenifer L
>> : Subject: don't mock God
>> : Importance: Low
>> : Sensitivity: Personal
>> :
>> :
>> : MessageThis made me think.
>> :
>> : NEVER MOCK GOD!
>> :
>> : Make a personal reflection about this. Very interesting, read until the
>> : end...
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> : It is written in the Bible (Galatians 6:7): "Be not deceived; God is 
>> not
>> :
>> :
>> : mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> : Here are some men and women who mocked God:
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> : JOHN LENNON:
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> : Some years before, during his interview with an American Magazine, he
>> : said:
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> : "Christianity will end, it will disappear. I do not have to argue about
>> :
>> : that. I am certain. Jesus was ok, but his subjects were too simple,
>> : Today we
>> :
>> : are more famous than Him" (1966). Lennon, after saying that the Beatles
>> : were
>> :
>> : more famous than Jesus Christ, was shot six times.
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> : TANCREDO NEVES (President of Brazil):
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> : During the Presidential campaign, he said if he got 500,000 votes from
>> : his
>> :
>> : party, not even God would remove him from Presidency. Sure he got the
>> : votes,
>> :
>> : but he got sick a day before being made President, then he died.
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> : CAZUZA (Bi-sexual Brazilian composer, singer and poet):
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> : During a show in Caneco ( Rio de Janeiro ), whilst smoking his
>> : cigarette, he
>> :
>> : puffed out some smoke into the air and said: "God, that's for you." He
>> : died
>> :
>> : at the age of 32 of AIDS in a horrible manner.
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> : THE MAN WHO BUILT TITANIC:
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> : After the construction of Titanic, a reporter asked him how safe the
>> : Titanic
>> :
>> : would be. With an ironic tone he said: "Not even God can sink it" The
>> :
>> : result: I think you all know what happened to the Titanic.
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> : MARILYN MONROE:
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> : She was visited by Billy Graham during a presentation of a show. He 
>> said
>> : the
>> :
>> : Spirit of God had sent him to preach to her. After hearing what the
>> : Preacher
>> :
>> : had to say, she said: "I don't need your Jesus". A week later, she was
>> : found
>> :
>> : dead in her apartment.
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> : BON SCOTT:
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> : The ex-vocalist of the AC/DC. On one of his 1979 songs he sang: "Don't
>> : stop
>> :
>> : me, I'm going down all the way, down the highway to hell". On the 19th
>> : of
>> :
>> : February 1980, Bon Scott was found dead, he had been choked by his own
>> :
>> : vomit.
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> : CAMPINAS/SP IN 2005:
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> : In Campinas, Brazil a group of friends, drunk, went to pick up a 
>> friend.
>> : The
>> :
>> : mother accompanied her to the car and was so worried about the
>> : drunkenness
>> :
>> : of her friends and she said to the daughter - holding her hand, who was
>> :
>> : already seated in the car: "MY DAUGHTER, GO WITH GOD AND MAY HE PROTECT
>> :
>> : YOU."
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> : She responded: "ONLY IF HE (GOD) TRAVELS IN THE TRUNK, CAUSE INSIDE 
>> HERE
>> :
>> :
>> : IT'S ALREADY FULL"
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> : Hours later, news came by that they had been involved in a fatal
>> : accident,
>> :
>> : everyone had died, the car could not be recognized what type of car it
>> : had
>> :
>> : been, but surprisingly, the trunk was intact. The police said there was
>> : no
>> :
>> : way the trunk could have remained intact.
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> : To their surprise, Inside the trunk was a crate of eggs, none were
>> : broken.
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> : Many more important people have forgotten that there is no other name
>> : that
>> :
>> : was given so much authority as the name of Jesus. Many have died, but
>> : only
>> :
>> : Jesus died and rose again, and he is still alive.
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> : JESUS!!!
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> : P.S: If it was a joke, you would have sent it to everyone. So are you
>> : going
>> :
>> : to have courage to send this?. I have done my part, Jesus said "If you
>> : are
>> :
>> : embarrassed about me, I will also be embarrassed about you before my
>> :
>> : father."
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> :
>> : What benefit does it have, if a man gains the whole world but loses his
>> :
>> : soul? What can man give in exchange of his soul? (Mathew 16:26).
>> :
>> :
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