ECHURCH-USA Archives

The Electronic Church

ECHURCH-USA@LISTSERV.ICORS.ORG

Options: Use Forum View

Use Monospaced Font
Show Text Part by Default
Show All Mail Headers

Message: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Topic: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Author: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]

Print Reply
Subject:
From:
John Schwery <[log in to unmask]>
Reply To:
Echurch-USA The Electronic Church <[log in to unmask]>
Date:
Sat, 3 Sep 2005 07:04:25 -0500
Content-Type:
text/plain
Parts/Attachments:
text/plain (94 lines)
Kathy, same way with tracks.  I know tracks have their place, but
some people throw them around like confetti and say they are witnessing.

earlier, Kathy Du Bois, wrote:
>This might sound really synnical, but in my opinion, if those who
>need to get saved are told to go to church to do so, it alieviates
>the person doing the inviting to give their own testimony or do any
>witnessing  of their own.  I get so frustrated with people who say,
>"oh, I couldn't say anything," or, I'll ask the pastor to pray
>because God will listen to him better.  We should all be willing to
>bring Christ into every situation and if that means that someone gets
>introduced to Christ in the bathroom, so be it!!
>Kathy
>
>
>At 07:40 PM 9/1/2005, you wrote:
> >Phil, that is too bad about the price Randy prayed.  That workbook of
> >yours sounds good.  One of the Baptist churches, in this town, got a
> >jump start when a pastor won a few to the Lord, using home Bible
> >studies.  He used the book, Won by one.  He studied with them in
> >their homes and when they were ready to come to church, nothing would
> >stop them.  I just don't understand this idea that we have to invite
> >people to church to be saved.  Take the gospel to them and not try to
> >drag them to the gospel.  I know some get saved in the church
> >buildings, themselves, but I think people have a greater chance of
> >being saved where they are comfortable.
> >
> >earlier, Phil Scovell, wrote:
> > >John,
> > >
> > >Your story reminded me of another.
> > >
> > >I wrote a 4 lesson Bible study specifically to be used as an evangelism
> > >tool.  A friend of mine and I were members of a church which had about 150
> > >members.  The pastor had been there 40 years and was a great man
> of God.  My
> > >friend, Keith, and I had been praying on sunday nights at the church for
> > >close to a year with only one or two others ever coming.  finally, I put
> > >this workbook together and Keith and I went to the pastor.  The
> idea was to
> > >get others, who were interested of course, to use the work book in
> > >establishing short 4 week home bible studies.  The workbook was
> made to help
> > >people follow along, filling out information as it was studied from the
> > >Scriptures, which ultimately led a person, not only to Christ, but to the
> > >importance of following Christ into water baptism, and church
> membership.  I
> > >knew a pastor who had used this method to build two different
> churches which
> > >both reached a thousand in each church and in an amazingly short period of
> > >time.  Additionally, other spin off churches were being established in
> > >distance communities as a result.  When we presented this to the
> pastor, he
> > >said he would be willing to announce it from the pulpit and even
> put it into
> > >the bulletin.  He, on the other hand, said that he had tried everything,
> > >over the years, and our plan would not work.  Keith had a man
> who worked for
> > >him who was not born again.  He and his wife said they would like to have
> > >the four week Bible study in their home once each week.  They
> were both not
> > >saved.  The workbook I designed was made in such a way that you
> were leading
> > >the person to Christ by the second Bible study.  The second
> week, the man's
> > >wife was born again but when I began talking to Randy, her husband, about
> > >salvation,  he said no.  After some discussion, it finally came
> out that he
> > >would have to give up his marijuana and alcohol if he became a
> Christian.  I
> > >worked on him, sort of speak, for some time trying to get him to see how
> > >huge of a mistake he was making and to get saved now and let the rest be
> > >taken care of by the Lord.  He kept saying, no, because, he said, "I know
> > >God will make me give up these things."  A year or so passed and one day
> > >Keith said, "I heard from Randy."  The man had stopped working
> on the house
> > >building crew that Keith had.  I asked about Randy and Keith
> said, "Well, he
> > >wants to come back to work.  Unfortunately, he has lost everything but
> > >fortunately he is now born again."  I asked what happened.  Keith reported
> > >that Randy's drinking and dope smoking finally pushed his marriage beyond
> > >its limits and his wife divorced him.  They had two little girls, about 4
> > >years of age, who were twins.  Randy finally hit bottom and
> checked himself
> > >into a drug and drinking rehab.  Some place along the way, he got saved.
> > >Thank God for that but he paid a big price for saying no once too many
> > >times.
> > >
> > >Phil.
> >
> >John

John

ATOM RSS1 RSS2