Hello everyone,
First of all, I've felt that Rick Warren was out of order since I saw
the text of his "prayer" when the current president assumed office.
I will be spending some time praying for him and all of his flock.
People in leadership are tempted harder.
I'd also like  to request prayer for our family.
My family is in need of a new place to live,
and an increase in income.
I'll write back later and introduce myself.
Thanks for the warnings about false teachers.
Donna

On 1/26/11, Stanley Haupt <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Below is the reply that I received from my Pastor about rich Warren. You
> might find his comments of interest. Pat, thank you for sharing this
> information with the list.
>
>
> Hey Stanley-
> Interesting article.
> Hard to say much about what the article reports without further research. We
> have only this person's account, without looking into it ourselves.
> By the tone of the article, this person sounds disgusted by what they heard.
> However, we do know that the mega church guys often use this kind of stuff
> to further their church and themselves. Health, of course, is a big issue
> these days.
> I will say that Warren is surrounding himself with some strange bed fellows,
> such as Dr. Oz. Oz came out of the Oprah organization, and Oprah is, in my
> opinion, a humanist at best.
> I did read an article (link below) as to basic outline of the Daniel Plan,
> and it is disturbing. According to the article, the reason they call it the
> Daniel plan is because Daniel chose to eat good stuff instead of the king's
> diet. That is a misinterpretation of the scripture. The Bible says that
> Daniel did not want to defile himself. Daniel was not making a statement
> about good eating, he was making a statement about living according to God's
> standards, despite the potential consequences.
> Warren also states that we need to be fit because Jesus died for our bodies
> and the Holy Spirit lives in our bodies, and that the Bible says we will be
> held accountable for the way we treat our bodies. Wow, I never read that
> verse.  I think he should read about the life of Jesus, Paul, Peter, and the
> rest of them and he will find out that they did not take care of their
> bodies very well. Guess they got a demerit when they reached the pearly
> gates, although they may get a pass because it is hard to take care of your
> body you are living most of your life in jail or on the run.
> I think Warren has gone off the track in this case.
> We do need to remember that Saddleback is a mega church and is in
> California. All that means is that Warren is politically safe, brings a
> large crowd for the politicians, is a mega dollar funder raiser, and lives
> in a very liberal state. Warren is riding a fine line between helping his
> congregation with a physical problem, and cashing in on the latest craze.
> Also, Warren is an author. This stunt is nothing more than an opportunity to
> sell more books.
> Too bad that the road to destruction is so wide.
> I did find it interesting that Warren brought in the medical experts he did.
> He used those experts as a non-threatening out reach to the community.
> Stanley, if the gospel is anything, it is threatening. It forces people to
> disavow their personal beliefs, and accept what God has to say. You cannot
> make the gospel non-threatening.
> Personally, I think he should stick to what Jesus has to say and let the
> rest be the rest.
> I hope Christians will remember the words of Joshua- "As for me and my
> house, we will serve the Lord."
> Thanks again for sharing.
> Ken
> http://www.christianpost.com/article/20110112/rick-warren-to-lose-90-pounds-in-saddleback-fitness-plan/
>