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john schwery <[log in to unmask]>
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Vicki, does your left hand know what your right hand is doing?

earlier, Vicki, wrote:
>If you think of it Friday, I have surgery on my left hand to correct 
>the tendon issue.  Can't really correct it any other way.  I hope it 
>does as they say it will.  So remember me in prayer please.  God is 
>still my healer however he chooses to heal.
>
>
>Vicki
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "john schwery" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 1:43 PM
>Subject: Re: Vicki's hand
>
>
>>Vicki, ah, that can be hard on your hands.
>>
>>earlier, Vicki, wrote:
>>>Customer  Service type stuff with phones and computer.
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "john schwery" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 1:27 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Vicki's hand
>>>
>>>
>>>>Vicki, I have forgotten.  What do you do for work?
>>>>
>>>>earlier, Vicki, wrote:
>>>>>We'll do.  Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Scovell" 
>>>>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 12:31 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: Vicki's hand
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Well, be sure and let us know what you find out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Phil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Vicki" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 9:48 AM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: Vicki's hand
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well, it's kind of weird. My left hand doesn't always want to 
>>>>>>>close. It's painful to do so, most of the time. Opening it is 
>>>>>>>a challenge as well. When I have to use my other hand to open 
>>>>>>>my ring finger, for example,  it makes this pop noise and 
>>>>>>>sneds a shock wave of pain to accompany it. My wrist seems to 
>>>>>>>be somewhat unhappy as well. That's in short why the hand doc visit coming up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Vicki
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>Date: Thursday, August 1, 2013 10:54 pm
>>>>>>>Subject: Vicki's hand
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Vic,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>What's wrong with your hand?  I have asked on the list so 
>>>>>>>>other's can hear, too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Phil.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>How Big Is God?  The Size Of Your Mouth.
>>>>>>>>www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   ----- Original Message -----   From: Vicki
>>>>>>>>   To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>   Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:35 PM
>>>>>>>>   Subject: Re: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Phil and everybody,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Sorry to hear that your visit was less positive than you 
>>>>>>>> had hoped it would be.  Like you say, the good thing is that 
>>>>>>>> you know what you know. I can't imagine having that much 
>>>>>>>> pain though and I sure will be praying. I get some living 
>>>>>>>> with pain myself as I am in therapy for a torn achiles 
>>>>>>>> Tendon.  The therapy has helped a great deal and I have 
>>>>>>>> exercises to do at home which I am doing.  In addition, I'm 
>>>>>>>> headed to a hand surgeon on the 13th and praying no surgery 
>>>>>>>> to be necessary, and everything to be returned to manageable 
>>>>>>>> and even more than what I'm believing for.  Will be praying that for you too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Vicki
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   .
>>>>>>>>     ----- Original Message -----     From: Phil Scovell
>>>>>>>>     To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>     Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:13 PM
>>>>>>>>     Subject: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     First, happy 137th birthday Colorado.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     My appointment with the back doctor wasn't all that 
>>>>>>>> encouraging today.  Basically, the x-rays they took today, 
>>>>>>>> plus the physical tests they did, revealed my lower back is 
>>>>>>>> telescoping, that is, the vertebras are all pressing 
>>>>>>>> downward.  As they  do, they are pressuring the disks which 
>>>>>>>> in turn are spreading out, slipping to the sides, and coming 
>>>>>>>> in contact with nerves which creates the pain in all the 
>>>>>>>> various locations. The pain changes from the lower back, 
>>>>>>>> into my hips, back of my legs, and all the way down to my 
>>>>>>>> ankles. Each back episode, creates pain in multiple places 
>>>>>>>> but not the same places each and every time.  Also, the pain 
>>>>>>>> level my be from mild to severe.  They do not recommend 
>>>>>>>> surgery because it would take a number of fusions of the 
>>>>>>>> vertebras to repair the damage that is ongoing.  They are 
>>>>>>>> recommending physical therapy in order to learn ways of 
>>>>>>>> exercising to the point the vertebras pull back from each 
>>>>>>>> other further and thus creating less pressure on the 
>>>>>>>> disks.  In short, learn to live with it. I was hoping it 
>>>>>>>> would be a single set of vertebra that could be fused but 
>>>>>>>> that isn't the case.  The pain episodes will continue but 
>>>>>>>> hopefully, with the PT, not as often and the exercises can 
>>>>>>>> be continued at home and should help keep things in better 
>>>>>>>> shape; maybe. At some point, if the PT is helping, I can go 
>>>>>>>> back and get shots in different places of my lower back to 
>>>>>>>> help with pain management, if it gets unbearable, that is, 
>>>>>>>> but only time will tell.  Learning to live with pain is 
>>>>>>>> going to be the name of the game.  At least now I know. 
>>>>>>>> Certainly not as encouraging as I would have hoped but 
>>>>>>>> knowing is better than not knowing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Phil.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Satan Has A God Complex
>>>>>>>>     www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Vic,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>What's wrong with your hand?  I have asked on the list so 
>>>>>>>>other's can hear, too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Phil.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>How Big Is God?  The Size Of Your Mouth.
>>>>>>>>www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: Vicki
>>>>>>>>To: ECHURCH-USA@LISTSERV.ICORS..ORG
>>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:35 PM
>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Phil and everybody,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Sorry to hear that your visit was less positive than you had 
>>>>>>>>hoped it would be.  Like you say, the good thing is that you 
>>>>>>>>know what you know. I can't imagine having that much pain 
>>>>>>>>though and I sure will be praying. I get some living with 
>>>>>>>>pain myself as I am in therapy for a torn achiles 
>>>>>>>>Tendon.  The therapy has helped a great deal and I have 
>>>>>>>>exercises to do at home which I am doing.  In addition, I'm 
>>>>>>>>headed to a hand surgeon on the 13th and praying no surgery 
>>>>>>>>to be necessary, and everything to be returned to manageable 
>>>>>>>>and even more than what I'm believing for.  Will be praying that for you too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Vicki
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Scovell
>>>>>>>>To: ECHURCH-USA@LISTSERV.ICORS..ORG
>>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 7:13 PM
>>>>>>>>Subject: Doctor's appointment concerning my back today
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>First, happy 137th birthday Colorado.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My appointment with the back doctor wasn't all that 
>>>>>>>>encouraging today. Basically, the x-rays they took today, 
>>>>>>>>plus the physical tests they did, revealed my lower back is 
>>>>>>>>telescoping, that is, the vertebras are all pressing 
>>>>>>>>downward.  As they  do, they are pressuring the disks which 
>>>>>>>>in turn are spreading out, slipping to the sides, and coming 
>>>>>>>>in contact with nerves which creates the pain in all the 
>>>>>>>>various locations.  The pain changes from the lower back, 
>>>>>>>>into my hips, back of my legs, and all the way down to my 
>>>>>>>>ankles. Each back episode, creates pain in multiple places 
>>>>>>>>but not the same places each and every time. Also, the pain 
>>>>>>>>level my be from mild to severe.  They do not recommend 
>>>>>>>>surgery because it would take a number of fusions of the 
>>>>>>>>vertebras to repair the damage that is ongoing. They are 
>>>>>>>>recommending physical therapy in order to learn ways of 
>>>>>>>>exercising to the point the vertebras pull back from each 
>>>>>>>>other further and thus creating less pressure on the 
>>>>>>>>disks.  In short, learn to live with it.  I was hoping it 
>>>>>>>>would be a single set of vertebra that could be fused but 
>>>>>>>>that isn't the case. The pain episodes will continue but 
>>>>>>>>hopefully, with the PT, not as often and the exercises can be 
>>>>>>>>continued at home and should help keep things in better 
>>>>>>>>shape; maybe.  At some point, if the PT is helping, I can go 
>>>>>>>>back and get shots in different places of my lower back to 
>>>>>>>>help with pain management, if it gets unbearable, that is, 
>>>>>>>>but only time will tell.  Learning to live with pain is going 
>>>>>>>>to be the name of the game.  At least now I know. Certainly 
>>>>>>>>not as encouraging as I would have hoped but knowing is 
>>>>>>>>better than not knowing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Phil.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Satan Has A God Complex
>>>>>>>>www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>>>>>
>>>>>John
>>>
>>>John
>
>John

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