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Here are some other authors to check out, Dale Brown, Patrick 
Robinson, Steven Coontz and Tom Clancy.

earlier, Lelia Struve, wrote:

>Phil, I am very interested in what the sun and earth go through as 
>well, as a matter of fact I get an email sometimes from I think its 
>called space science or Nassau space or something like that. It lets 
>me know when there are comets or broken comets.  I like it.
>
>
>Lelia
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 3:03 PM
>Subject: Tribulation and Earth Effects
>
>
>>I've talked about this particular aspect of end times prophecy
>>before but I have been thinking about it occasionally since I
>>first mentioned it.  I haven't read any fiction for probably two
>>years, if not longer, because the Library for the Blind here in
>>Denver had done something different on their website and I could
>>no longer access the link, once I upgraded to jaws seven, to order
>>books online.  I checked it occasionally, and a couple of weeks
>>ago, their pages had been redesigned so I tried the link and
>>bingo, I was into the order area and search links.  I looked up my
>>trusty old favorites by starting with Clive Cussler.  You have to
>>like books that have adventure, heroes, and the good guys always
>>win, to enjoy Cussler's books.  I've read everything he has
>>written in fiction and some of the stories I like so well, I have
>>read them 6 and 7 times over the years.  Clive Cussler used to
>>live in the Denver area and only about 20 minutes up the road from
>>where Sandy and I live and from where Todd and Lelia live.  Well,
>>about the same for Vicki where she lives, too.  I wrote Cussler a
>>letter many years ago by sending it to his publisher.  It was
>>probably his fifth or sixth book at the time.  He has probably
>>over two dozen books written now and at least five years ago, if
>>not more, I heard him on a local Denver talk show talking about is
>>books and at that time, there were over 90 million copies in print
>>of his books.  So, old Clive is pretty popular.  Generally
>>speaking, there is very little bad language in his books but there
>>is a lot of action, in places, so the Library of Congress puts a
>>disclaimer at the beginning to let you know that there are
>>descriptions of violence but he writes in such a way, I find it
>>difficult to label it violent.  Anyhow, I simply wrote him and
>>thanked him for his latest book and to my amazement, he wrote me
>>back, gave me his home phone number in Golden, Colorado, just up
>>the mountain a ways as I said, and apologized for writing his
>>letter by hand but he was almost walking out the door and his
>>stuff was all loaded into the car and he and his wife were on
>>their way to their winter home in Arizona.  He now lives in
>>Telluride, Colorado, that's in western Colorado where all the real
>>rich people live.  Vale and Aspen are still rich people mountain
>>ski communities but it is now nothing compared to Telluride.
>>Anyhow, Clive owns and collects and restores like new, antique
>>cars, and he takes them to car shows all over the country.  I had
>>mentioned this in my letter, and his return letter said that when
>>he return, I was supposed to call him in about six months, and he
>>would come down and pick me and Sandy up and take us to where he
>>stores all his antique cars and show them to us.  I kept his
>>letter for a long time, along with his home phone number in Golden
>>but frankly, when the date came and went of his return, I honestly
>>didn't have the nerve to try and call him but I often wish I had
>>done so.  Clive Cussler must now be in his seventies.  So what
>>does this have to do with what I brought up before?  I'm glad you
>>asked.  Cussler touches on some very interesting ideas in his
>>adventure novels.  The main character of at least the first 15
>>books or so is a man who is very much like Cussler himself in many
>>ways.  His books are largely about the world's oceans and evil
>>groups of sinister diabolical people who are out to destroy the
>>earth in one way or another.  So, back to the Library for the
>>Blind website.  I typed in Cussler's name and up popped a list of
>>all his books.  Several new ones were now available which I had
>>not read because, as I said, I haven't read anything for a couple
>>of years, and I probably had not read any of Cussler's books for
>>five or more years due to the slower pace they are recorded and
>>made available to the blind through the talking book program.  So,
>>I ordered a dozen books but one in particular I really wanted to
>>read right away because it sounded like it was a global story that
>>I have personally wondered about now for some time concerning the
>>seven years of tribulation.  As I have said before, I have been a
>>news hound for most of my life.  At times, I am almost addicted to
>>news.  In the past two or three years, the Middle Eastern news,
>>and things related, simply cannot go unnoticed by a Christian.  I
>>pray with a financial adviser once each week and have done so for
>>about two years.  We skip weeks, as we did last week, because he
>>is often out of town.  When we first met, a friend of his in
>>Texas had found my website, I believe it was either from that
>>website or another one listing me as an intercessor who prays with
>>people, and since he was in Denver, he called and talked about
>>what type of ministry I had.  He had been out of work for six
>>years do to depression and he physically was getting worse as
>>well.  He came to some of our Friday night prayer meetings for
>>awhile but he lives about 30 minutes south of my house so it is
>>quite a ways for him to drive.  After about six months of prayer
>>sessions, sometimes twice a week, he went and applied at another
>>place, got the job, and has been back in investment counseling for
>>the last year and a half.  He has made good money and last week
>>was asked to come and apply at a place he really has always wanted
>>to work where they literally deal in millions, try 500 million
>>dollars, worth of investments.  His health, by the way, has
>>improved, too.  Randy watches world trends like I do and he has
>>contacts who do business all over the planet.  Each week, we
>>spend about half our prayer time discussing prophecy, the
>>tribulation, world markets, and world events.  I've learned a lot
>>about world economies and globalism from him simply because the
>>people he works for, and contacts he has made over the years, give
>>him insights I normally don't hear about.  He has lots of
>>knowledge about the history of things like our Federal Reserve
>>Bank and the International Monitory Fund, IMF, and other such
>>banking organizations that have given me a stronger idea of things
>>I have often wondered about concerning the tribulation.  God has
>>healed this man in so many places, we just normally plan on
>>praying once a week to see if anything new is there and some
>>things I have written about are directly healing experiences this
>>man has experience, praise God.  Anyhow, I told you all about this
>>guy for background information and because of things he has said
>>that have added to some of my personal beliefs about globalism.
>>He, too, watches what is going on in the Middle East but he knows
>>contacts there who do business with people that makes the Bible
>>prophetics come alive.  As I started to say, for some time, I have
>>had an idea in the back of my head but had no scientific knowledge
>>about it so I have just kept my ears opened.  The subject has been
>>surfacing and filtering up into our news levels, and also on the
>>science channels I watch, so my little theory has been coming
>>together more and more.  Again, all this is relative so don't give
>>up on me yet even if this email seems long.  The last time I
>>wrote on this, I quoted passages from Isaiah and Revelation about
>>what I believe would happen to the earth during the tribulation.
>>I have said, and still believe, it is pretty clear, and I won't
>>list all the Biblical reasons again, but it is pretty clear the
>>sun goes into a nova phase during the tribulation.  I believe this
>>because of the passages which say the moon shines like the sun,
>>the moon turns blood red, the earth's climate becomes seven times
>>hotter, and due to other such Biblical references.  A sun that
>>novas, scientist say, becomes at least seven times hotter than
>>normal.  The moon reflects the sun's light, thus, it will appear
>>to shine as the sun at that time of solar peak output.  A nova
>>cycle used to be believed, by scientists, to take thousands of
>>years.  For decades now, they have studied novas in our own galaxy
>>and now know it came take as little as seven years.  The perfect
>>number for the tribulation.  This means, as I think I have said
>>before, that the sun expands, getting hotter and hotter, and
>>suddenly burns out.  By that I mean, it begins to cool rapidly.
>>As it cools, it condenses, that is, it collapses in upon itself.
>>It's mass shrinks, it's color turns a dull red, isn't that
>>interesting, just another Biblical confirmation of a nova, and as
>>it condenses in mass, falling in upon itself, it becomes smaller
>>and smaller and smaller.  The theory is that black holes, are
>>holes in space that act something like a vortex and that they are
>>created from a dying star, or sun in other words, as it becomes a
>>neutron star.  It continues collapsing in upon itself, getting
>>heavier and heavier until space itself can no longer hold it's
>>dense mass and punches a literal hole into the fabric of space.
>>There's your black hole.  A black hole is said to even suck up
>>light passing by and they can be literally millions of light years
>>across they have recently discovered.  The gravity is so powerful,
>>some scientists believe the worm holes are created into other
>>parallel universes and that the big bang theory occurred from the
>>other end of a black hole coughing out all the compressed atoms
>>into another empty universe and life was born.  I didn't say I
>>believe all of this and in fact, I personally do not even believe
>>black holes exist but I am no scientist so believe what you wish.
>>I have reasons why I believe all this stuff so just hold on and
>>let me continue.  Anyhow, our sun right now is going through
>>several years of unprecedented, and highly irregular, changes that
>>man has never seen before in man's life upon this earth.  I won't
>>go into all those changes for now but it is happening and it is
>>being reported on from many journals and even from some news
>>broadcasts.  The Scriptures, according to those passages I quote
>>in Isaiah chapters 23 and 24 and in the book of Revelation are
>>pretty clear that the earth is just about torn apart by titanic
>>gravitational changes effecting the earth from within the planet
>>and from space.  Also, the star falling into the world's oceans
>>and all that Revelation talks about, could easily bring earth
>>changes almost instantly into play so I won't try and preach a
>>whole sermon here right now on this.  What I am typing would take
>>hours to teach Scripturally and from a systematic standpoint.
>>Earthquakes, as we all know, play a big part of the tribulation
>>period of time.  The grand daddy earthquake flattens all
>>mountains, that's right, all mountains, and all islands disappear.
>>Read it for yourself in the book of Revelation.  There is also
>>another element that I believe will occur to bring about
>>cataclysmic global catastrophe and that is a polar magnetic and
>>geo polar shift.  It could be one, or both, of these types of
>>shifts.  The first is magnetic in nature and would cause the least
>>amount of damage.  Your compass would point south.  Births birds,
>>bees, and animals of all kinds would lose their ability to
>>navigate.  Electronically, it is likely everything would totally
>>be screwed up, break down, and burn up.  There are some scientists
>>who believe we have experienced magnet polar shifts already over
>>millions of years but you'd have to believe the earth was
>>literally, as they guess it to be, about 5 billion years old for
>>their theoretical magnetic polar shifts to have occurred at all
>>and I'm not in that camp.  The geo polar shift would be something
>>totally irreversible and  would likely cause the entire earth's
>>surface to move around like an ice skater on a frozen pond.  The
>>geo polar shift means the crust of the earth's surface, that which
>>we live on, and the mantel, just below that level an probably
>>drops to 1800 miles or so below surface level, will slip around on
>>the earth's core.  It is estimated that such global movement would
>>literally turn the earth sideways so the magnetic poles would be
>>where the earth's equator is now and the equator would move to
>>where the magnetic poles are now.  It could be even worse.  In
>>such a case, can you see how every mountain will be flattened and
>>every island would disappear?  The oceans would move and the
>>continents as well.  Isaiah says the earth wobbles to and fro in
>>its orbit at this time as a drunken man.  such a geo polar shift
>>would have exactly they type of effect.  Well, interestingly
>>enough, Clive Cussler's book called "Polar Shift," is on this
>>exact topic and it is explained in scientific, howbeit from a
>>fictional standpoint, how such a polar shift could be created by
>>man.  So, I know this has been long, but I found the story
>>fascinating as it relates to what I see in Scripture concerning
>>what the earth will suffer during the seven years of tribulation.
>>
>>Phil.
>>
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