All major decisions must be made in writing by the nearest relative.  Or the 
one holding power of attorney.  Why should this decision to commit murder be 
different.  Even convicted prisoners have written records of their death 
sentences.  Similar decisions are made to end an older persons life by 
"pulling the plug".  There are those who, like our current president, have 
no feeling for
God's prescripts, and who might choose to kill an innocent child.  Because 
they are willing to circumvent the sovereign will of God.  If we allow God 
to choose who lives and who dies, it will happen regardless what we do. 
Unless we take extreme measures and actually kill the individual concerned.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doris and Chris" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: Obama Care and Planned Parenthood


> but then why does a husband have to make that decision in writing if his 
> wife is to deliver her baby in a catholic hospital?
>
> I totally agree with you except for burdening a husband to make a decision 
> that is gods in the first place.
> love and hugs,
>
> Doris
>
> At 10:00 AM 2014/03/04 -0500, you wrote:
>>How many abortions are done because the mothers life is in actual danger 
>>compared to those made for convenience?  Just last Friday I was waiting 
>>for my ride to take me home from my work at our local community college. 
>>I overheard a young woman talking with a young man in the lobby of the 
>>school. She and he were talking about drinking and "smoking", if you all 
>>know what I mean, before they attended high school.  She and he were 
>>discussing how high school students ate lunch with their infants in 
>>strollers in the school cafeterias.  When, in my day, it was a shame for a 
>>child to have a child out of wedlock, and children went to homes for unwed 
>>mothers when they were so unfortunate as to be victimized by this sin. 
>>Now, there is no societal shame for anything children do these days, it 
>>seems.  She also told this young man she knew another woman who had three 
>>abortions.  Is this typical? Even if it isn't, should a society allow 
>>abortions to be abused by causing them to be legal for anyone who sees it 
>>as an alternative to carrying a person to term.  Regarding whose life is 
>>more valuable the life of an unborn person verses the woman who is most 
>>instrumental in bringing that person to this earth.  I ask how can we 
>>humans decide, or is that decision properly our right.  Or does that 
>>decision belong to the God who brought us all here in the first place? 
>>Doesn't he know what is best for us all?  Is he not capable of choosing 
>>for us the decision which will best serve us?  If so, than we ought to 
>>allow him to choose which life should be brought to live with him and with 
>>the angelic host, and which should be left here in this veil of tears to 
>>struggle with life's temptations which might possibly alienate us from his 
>>heavenly presence forever.  I truly believe The god of the universe, who 
>>created us each knows which is best for us each, and we should leave such 
>>decisions to him.  Because, I have full and complete faith in his 
>>sovereignty.  This is buttressed by my personal experience of making wrong 
>>and horribly mistaken decisions concerning my own life.  Using this as an 
>>indication, I can fully say
>>God surely knows what is best for me.  Even though I am unable to see with 
>>my finite mind why these decisions are made.  The world God created is 
>>like a movie.  We haven't seen the whole movie, and were sort of dropped 
>>in its middle without understanding its sense.
>>God, is the author, and the director of the film.  He should alone decide 
>>who dies and who lives.  It is up to us to try as best as we can to 
>>preserve all human life.  Regardless whether that life is in the womb, or 
>>is on life support for a 100 year old person.  When there is a choice to 
>>be made, we must try to save both very young and the extreme aged of 
>>persons, and allow God to do his job, and to choose for himself which 
>>persons he wants to live with at any given moment.  God gives us the power 
>>and ability to save lives. It is we who take it upon ourselves to kill 
>>people, as we have done through sanctioned abortions.
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris and Chris" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 8:58 AM
>>Subject: Re: Obama Care and Planned Parenthood
>>
>>
>>>what about terminating a pregnancy if the mothers life is in danger?
>>>
>>>Doris and chrisAt 05:57 AM 2014/03/04 -0500, you wrote:
>>>>We challenged people won't at all be effected by the affordable care 
>>>>act. Generally those who work would have done better with encouragement 
>>>>to provide for themselves with health insurance plans.  Rather than 
>>>>being forced to depend on a Godless government who forces people with 
>>>>religious reasons to fund birth control and abortion coverage for 
>>>>employees, and who forces businesses to cater weddings for same sex 
>>>>couples against their religious principles, and who, when the government 
>>>>was closed down for that last two or three weeks, forbid government 
>>>>contracted priests to celebrate mass even on a voluntary basis.  I sent 
>>>>you the article telling us all of that horror.  Requiring people who 
>>>>wanted to partake of the blessed sacrament to go off military bases to 
>>>>find a priest not contracted by the government to perform weddings, ETC. 
>>>>If we take anything at all from such a government to which we ourselves 
>>>>have not contributed, with the exception of social security.  Because 
>>>>that is a program funded by us, with the expectation we would reap 
>>>>benefits from it.  Which, by the way, began as a supplemental program 
>>>>only, and wasn't meant in the beginning to be the mainstay of an 
>>>>individuals economic existence.  We will also be held accountable at the 
>>>>day of judgment along with this Godless government.    We have got to 
>>>>stand together against it, and do all we can to revile all it stands 
>>>>for.  At whatever personal cost to us.  Else, our children and grand 
>>>>children will pay the price for our foolishness, and we ourselves will 
>>>>have to answer to God.
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bev" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 11:01 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: Obama Care and Planned Parenthood
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Inn spite of all the negative things a lot of folks are saying about 
>>>>>Obama care, there are some positive things that have happened, such as 
>>>>>for people with pre-existing health conditions, who used to have a 
>>>>>difficult time finding insurers. Under this plan they can not be turned 
>>>>>down for insurance. Also, my daughter tells me that Obama's plan has 
>>>>>already cut down on the number of emergency room visits where people 
>>>>>came in for treatment who didn't really need emergency treatment, 
>>>>>simply because they didn't have insurance. She says that now when they 
>>>>>get emergencies they are really emergencies and not just people coming 
>>>>>in because they have a bad cold. Also, my son had no idea his medical 
>>>>>insurance didn't provide him full medical coverage,  until he got a 
>>>>>letter from them saying that because of the new health requirements 
>>>>>they were going to have to raise his rates because they were now 
>>>>>required to offer full coverage. I told him that yes, he might not like 
>>>>>the idea of his rates going up, but wasn't that worth it to have 
>>>>>complete coverage? My GP doctor just recently told me that now with the 
>>>>>new plan I am entitled to have top notch kidney care. I hope they can 
>>>>>get all the kinks worked out of the new health care law, because there 
>>>>>are definitely things about it that can be good, if they can get it all 
>>>>>straightened out right.
>>>>>
>>>>>Bev
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris and Chris" 
>>>>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 5:19 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: Obama Care and Planned Parenthood
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Sheesh. we in general think that obama is doing a good think by 
>>>>>>introducing much needed social health care in the US but this is 
>>>>>>terrible. Mind you, from our view, an abortion would be justified if 
>>>>>>the mothers life was immediately in danger but not for social 
>>>>>>indication.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>it is society and not peoples lives that need change for that to 
>>>>>>happen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Doris and Chris in Germany
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At 04:54 AM 2014/03/03 -0500, you wrote:
>>>>>>>I take personal offence with the planned parenthood  organization.
>>>>>>>Because of its stand regarding contraception and abortion.  Which, in 
>>>>>>>my opinion is nothing more than infanticide.  Is it any wonder why 
>>>>>>>those clinics are in the poorest parts of all towns, and that the 
>>>>>>>neighborhoods in which they are located are black neighborhoods? 
>>>>>>>Just the other week I heard a study was done, and that more dear 
>>>>>>>black children were murdered through abortions than were born?  We 
>>>>>>>must pray for the souls of all these poor children, and for the 
>>>>>>>enlightenment of their poor benighted mothers.  That they might see, 
>>>>>>>before it is too late, the harm they are doing to their own immortal 
>>>>>>>souls by having this done to them, and allowing this horror to exist. 
>>>>>>>Without doing anything to stop it at all.
>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: <mailto:[log in to unmask]>Phil Scovell
>>>>>>>To: 
>>>>>>><mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 7:03 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: Obama Care and Planned Parenthood
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This week, someone knocked on our front door.  Nobody hardly ever 
>>>>>>>does that except for UPS and the mail man and even then, the knock is 
>>>>>>>only to let us know they are leaving a box on our front porch steps. 
>>>>>>>Otherwise, everybody comes to what we call our side door which is the 
>>>>>>>front of my office on the side of the house.  This time it was 
>>>>>>>someone from Planned Parenthood and when asked what they wanted, they 
>>>>>>>said they were just checking to see if we, everyone living in this 
>>>>>>>house in other words, were signed up with Obama Care.  They said they 
>>>>>>>were just going house to house checking to see if people were signed 
>>>>>>>up.  Your tax dollars at work for the biggest abortion mill in North 
>>>>>>>America.  55 million abortions and counting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Phil.
>>>>>>>Living His Name
>>>>>>><http://www.SafePlaceFellowship.COM>WWW.SafePlaceFellowship.COM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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