Phil, I am very interested in what the sun and earth go through as well, as 
a matter of fact I get an email sometimes from I think its called space 
science or Nassau space or something like that. It lets me know when there 
are comets or broken comets.  I like it.


Lelia
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 3:03 PM
Subject: Tribulation and Earth Effects


> I've talked about this particular aspect of end times prophecy
> before but I have been thinking about it occasionally since I
> first mentioned it.  I haven't read any fiction for probably two
> years, if not longer, because the Library for the Blind here in
> Denver had done something different on their website and I could
> no longer access the link, once I upgraded to jaws seven, to order
> books online.  I checked it occasionally, and a couple of weeks
> ago, their pages had been redesigned so I tried the link and
> bingo, I was into the order area and search links.  I looked up my
> trusty old favorites by starting with Clive Cussler.  You have to
> like books that have adventure, heroes, and the good guys always
> win, to enjoy Cussler's books.  I've read everything he has
> written in fiction and some of the stories I like so well, I have
> read them 6 and 7 times over the years.  Clive Cussler used to
> live in the Denver area and only about 20 minutes up the road from
> where Sandy and I live and from where Todd and Lelia live.  Well,
> about the same for Vicki where she lives, too.  I wrote Cussler a
> letter many years ago by sending it to his publisher.  It was
> probably his fifth or sixth book at the time.  He has probably
> over two dozen books written now and at least five years ago, if
> not more, I heard him on a local Denver talk show talking about is
> books and at that time, there were over 90 million copies in print
> of his books.  So, old Clive is pretty popular.  Generally
> speaking, there is very little bad language in his books but there
> is a lot of action, in places, so the Library of Congress puts a
> disclaimer at the beginning to let you know that there are
> descriptions of violence but he writes in such a way, I find it
> difficult to label it violent.  Anyhow, I simply wrote him and
> thanked him for his latest book and to my amazement, he wrote me
> back, gave me his home phone number in Golden, Colorado, just up
> the mountain a ways as I said, and apologized for writing his
> letter by hand but he was almost walking out the door and his
> stuff was all loaded into the car and he and his wife were on
> their way to their winter home in Arizona.  He now lives in
> Telluride, Colorado, that's in western Colorado where all the real
> rich people live.  Vale and Aspen are still rich people mountain
> ski communities but it is now nothing compared to Telluride.
> Anyhow, Clive owns and collects and restores like new, antique
> cars, and he takes them to car shows all over the country.  I had
> mentioned this in my letter, and his return letter said that when
> he return, I was supposed to call him in about six months, and he
> would come down and pick me and Sandy up and take us to where he
> stores all his antique cars and show them to us.  I kept his
> letter for a long time, along with his home phone number in Golden
> but frankly, when the date came and went of his return, I honestly
> didn't have the nerve to try and call him but I often wish I had
> done so.  Clive Cussler must now be in his seventies.  So what
> does this have to do with what I brought up before?  I'm glad you
> asked.  Cussler touches on some very interesting ideas in his
> adventure novels.  The main character of at least the first 15
> books or so is a man who is very much like Cussler himself in many
> ways.  His books are largely about the world's oceans and evil
> groups of sinister diabolical people who are out to destroy the
> earth in one way or another.  So, back to the Library for the
> Blind website.  I typed in Cussler's name and up popped a list of
> all his books.  Several new ones were now available which I had
> not read because, as I said, I haven't read anything for a couple
> of years, and I probably had not read any of Cussler's books for
> five or more years due to the slower pace they are recorded and
> made available to the blind through the talking book program.  So,
> I ordered a dozen books but one in particular I really wanted to
> read right away because it sounded like it was a global story that
> I have personally wondered about now for some time concerning the
> seven years of tribulation.  As I have said before, I have been a
> news hound for most of my life.  At times, I am almost addicted to
> news.  In the past two or three years, the Middle Eastern news,
> and things related, simply cannot go unnoticed by a Christian.  I
> pray with a financial adviser once each week and have done so for
> about two years.  We skip weeks, as we did last week, because he
> is often out of town.  When we first met, a friend of his in
> Texas had found my website, I believe it was either from that
> website or another one listing me as an intercessor who prays with
> people, and since he was in Denver, he called and talked about
> what type of ministry I had.  He had been out of work for six
> years do to depression and he physically was getting worse as
> well.  He came to some of our Friday night prayer meetings for
> awhile but he lives about 30 minutes south of my house so it is
> quite a ways for him to drive.  After about six months of prayer
> sessions, sometimes twice a week, he went and applied at another
> place, got the job, and has been back in investment counseling for
> the last year and a half.  He has made good money and last week
> was asked to come and apply at a place he really has always wanted
> to work where they literally deal in millions, try 500 million
> dollars, worth of investments.  His health, by the way, has
> improved, too.  Randy watches world trends like I do and he has
> contacts who do business all over the planet.  Each week, we
> spend about half our prayer time discussing prophecy, the
> tribulation, world markets, and world events.  I've learned a lot
> about world economies and globalism from him simply because the
> people he works for, and contacts he has made over the years, give
> him insights I normally don't hear about.  He has lots of
> knowledge about the history of things like our Federal Reserve
> Bank and the International Monitory Fund, IMF, and other such
> banking organizations that have given me a stronger idea of things
> I have often wondered about concerning the tribulation.  God has
> healed this man in so many places, we just normally plan on
> praying once a week to see if anything new is there and some
> things I have written about are directly healing experiences this
> man has experience, praise God.  Anyhow, I told you all about this
> guy for background information and because of things he has said
> that have added to some of my personal beliefs about globalism.
> He, too, watches what is going on in the Middle East but he knows
> contacts there who do business with people that makes the Bible
> prophetics come alive.  As I started to say, for some time, I have
> had an idea in the back of my head but had no scientific knowledge
> about it so I have just kept my ears opened.  The subject has been
> surfacing and filtering up into our news levels, and also on the
> science channels I watch, so my little theory has been coming
> together more and more.  Again, all this is relative so don't give
> up on me yet even if this email seems long.  The last time I
> wrote on this, I quoted passages from Isaiah and Revelation about
> what I believe would happen to the earth during the tribulation.
> I have said, and still believe, it is pretty clear, and I won't
> list all the Biblical reasons again, but it is pretty clear the
> sun goes into a nova phase during the tribulation.  I believe this
> because of the passages which say the moon shines like the sun,
> the moon turns blood red, the earth's climate becomes seven times
> hotter, and due to other such Biblical references.  A sun that
> novas, scientist say, becomes at least seven times hotter than
> normal.  The moon reflects the sun's light, thus, it will appear
> to shine as the sun at that time of solar peak output.  A nova
> cycle used to be believed, by scientists, to take thousands of
> years.  For decades now, they have studied novas in our own galaxy
> and now know it came take as little as seven years.  The perfect
> number for the tribulation.  This means, as I think I have said
> before, that the sun expands, getting hotter and hotter, and
> suddenly burns out.  By that I mean, it begins to cool rapidly.
> As it cools, it condenses, that is, it collapses in upon itself.
> It's mass shrinks, it's color turns a dull red, isn't that
> interesting, just another Biblical confirmation of a nova, and as
> it condenses in mass, falling in upon itself, it becomes smaller
> and smaller and smaller.  The theory is that black holes, are
> holes in space that act something like a vortex and that they are
> created from a dying star, or sun in other words, as it becomes a
> neutron star.  It continues collapsing in upon itself, getting
> heavier and heavier until space itself can no longer hold it's
> dense mass and punches a literal hole into the fabric of space.
> There's your black hole.  A black hole is said to even suck up
> light passing by and they can be literally millions of light years
> across they have recently discovered.  The gravity is so powerful,
> some scientists believe the worm holes are created into other
> parallel universes and that the big bang theory occurred from the
> other end of a black hole coughing out all the compressed atoms
> into another empty universe and life was born.  I didn't say I
> believe all of this and in fact, I personally do not even believe
> black holes exist but I am no scientist so believe what you wish.
> I have reasons why I believe all this stuff so just hold on and
> let me continue.  Anyhow, our sun right now is going through
> several years of unprecedented, and highly irregular, changes that
> man has never seen before in man's life upon this earth.  I won't
> go into all those changes for now but it is happening and it is
> being reported on from many journals and even from some news
> broadcasts.  The Scriptures, according to those passages I quote
> in Isaiah chapters 23 and 24 and in the book of Revelation are
> pretty clear that the earth is just about torn apart by titanic
> gravitational changes effecting the earth from within the planet
> and from space.  Also, the star falling into the world's oceans
> and all that Revelation talks about, could easily bring earth
> changes almost instantly into play so I won't try and preach a
> whole sermon here right now on this.  What I am typing would take
> hours to teach Scripturally and from a systematic standpoint.
> Earthquakes, as we all know, play a big part of the tribulation
> period of time.  The grand daddy earthquake flattens all
> mountains, that's right, all mountains, and all islands disappear.
> Read it for yourself in the book of Revelation.  There is also
> another element that I believe will occur to bring about
> cataclysmic global catastrophe and that is a polar magnetic and
> geo polar shift.  It could be one, or both, of these types of
> shifts.  The first is magnetic in nature and would cause the least
> amount of damage.  Your compass would point south.  Births birds,
> bees, and animals of all kinds would lose their ability to
> navigate.  Electronically, it is likely everything would totally
> be screwed up, break down, and burn up.  There are some scientists
> who believe we have experienced magnet polar shifts already over
> millions of years but you'd have to believe the earth was
> literally, as they guess it to be, about 5 billion years old for
> their theoretical magnetic polar shifts to have occurred at all
> and I'm not in that camp.  The geo polar shift would be something
> totally irreversible and  would likely cause the entire earth's
> surface to move around like an ice skater on a frozen pond.  The
> geo polar shift means the crust of the earth's surface, that which
> we live on, and the mantel, just below that level an probably
> drops to 1800 miles or so below surface level, will slip around on
> the earth's core.  It is estimated that such global movement would
> literally turn the earth sideways so the magnetic poles would be
> where the earth's equator is now and the equator would move to
> where the magnetic poles are now.  It could be even worse.  In
> such a case, can you see how every mountain will be flattened and
> every island would disappear?  The oceans would move and the
> continents as well.  Isaiah says the earth wobbles to and fro in
> its orbit at this time as a drunken man.  such a geo polar shift
> would have exactly they type of effect.  Well, interestingly
> enough, Clive Cussler's book called "Polar Shift," is on this
> exact topic and it is explained in scientific, howbeit from a
> fictional standpoint, how such a polar shift could be created by
> man.  So, I know this has been long, but I found the story
> fascinating as it relates to what I see in Scripture concerning
> what the earth will suffer during the seven years of tribulation.
>
> Phil.
>
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