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M McLoughlin <[log in to unmask]>
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Cloaks-and-Daggers Open Discussion of Intelligence (Academic)
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Audio briefing?  "Listened to" by a Mr. Chuck Missler? Without the name of the speaker or supporting documentation?  With the
claim that the USS Liberty was sending intercept data, unencrypted? This is evidence? This is a source?  Mr. Compton, you really
should be ashamed. Michael McLoughlin

4/30/01 2:07:33 AM, Jeremy Compton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>I found this a very interesting audio briefing, what l have put together
>below is a cassette tape transcription of this briefing pack, l hope the
>list members may find it interesting, it is of historical Intelligence
>Interest, since it is about the USS Liberty a Us SIGINT ship, bak in the
>1960's
>
>This formed part of briefing pack called the Betrayal of the Chosen, The
>Modern History of Israel, Very Interesting
>You can hear all of the briefing using Realplayer
>The briefing pack available free online is a Chronogical history of Israel.
>
>The 20th century stuff is on end of part 2-part 5 a very interesting
>briefing indeed
>
>http://www.khouse.org/sixtysixforty/currentevents/20001030-152.html
>
>You can also hear this briefing online using realplayer
>
>Cheers, Jeremy

>This is of a Cassette tape briefing package that l listened by Chuck
>Missler, a Naval academy graduate and former Branch Chief of the Dept. of
>Guided Missiles, had a remarkable 30-year executive career. He served on the
>Board of Directors of 12 public companies and was CEO of 6 of
>them.http://www.khouse.org/about.html. and more here
>http://www.khouse.org/misslers.html
>
>This briefing pack which is a audio one which the online one uses
>realplayer, I believe that its either on part 3 or 4 on the website
>I listened to this off the cassette tape, l hope after all my trouble its on
>the website version.
>
>http://www.khouse.org/sixtysixforty/currentevents/20001030-152.html
>
>the briefing pack is available here at
>http://store.khouse.org/store/cat/BP056?wWh7S2xu;;106
>
>Published in 1997
>
>Transcribed from Tape 2 side 1 of Betrayal of the chosen. (these are not my
>words, and is transcribed as is)- [jeremy]
>
>One of the controversial subjects that comes out of the 6 day war is the
>Israeli attack on the USS Liberty.
>
>There is speculation about this , especially as the US and Israel are meant
>to be allies, right at least on paper.
>
>The Liberty was not just a floating radio set snooping on the progress of
>the war. Its more complexe than that. Because the US embassy in beirut could
>mounder all the traffic, even tape Israeli pilots talking back and forth
>when they hit the Liberty. But for that matter, the Egyptian embassy in
>Jordan could listen to the radio traffic, and it was much closer than the
>Liberty. So what the US ship doing there ?
>
>Well it turns out, that it was one of the most sophisticated spy ships of
>its time making a war map.
>
>Everytime any Israeli, anywhere transmitted, whether walkie-talkie,
>aircraft, tank radio, ship, the ship recorders voice and indexed it with the
>direction and strenght of the signal. The ship swept up everything in the
>airwaves while noting, the location of every speck of electronic dust, that
>you might call it in Israel. And since it didnt have computers on board. It
>compressed everything electronically and did high speed transmission to a
>land station on Cyprus where the British had one of the largest electronic
>listening posts in the world. There computers would decode the traffic,
>plotting military transmissions and telephone calls, etc. And then the
>nature of the calls were sorted. Locations of major Israeli headquarters,
>small regiments, battalions, individual units, and in this way the british
>were making good on their promise to support the Arab case in Palestine,
>which they had made at the time of the Suez debacle in 1956.
>
>Now with all this electronic screening and all this stuff, it was possible
>to produce an electronic, an accurate electronic map of every Israeli troop
>movement and position practically down to the man, and with this information
>which the US and British were sending to the Arabs. The Arabs might have
>been able to turn the war around.
>
>Now as the Israeli's were pulling their troops of the Sinai, to deal with
>the Syrians in the north, the Liberty was able to inform the Egyptians of
>the holes in the Israeli line, and this was of course intolerable for the
>Israeli's, who were already upset because the US had tipped Jordan off with
>important intelligence information.
>
>So they had to do something about it, but they had a PR problem obviously,
>and so a plane was sent to map the Liberty's location and shortly after the
>plane flew over loaded with electronic information gathering equipment. From
>this flight there was no doubt about the battle information being processed
>, and that it originated from the ship, and given what had happened on the
>field of battle, the Israeli's were faced with a choice of 25,000 dead Jews
>or 1 American ship.
>
>They opted for for the ship. Within hours of the incident the Pentagon
>released a media statement saying the Liberty had been stationed there to
>facilitate communications incase Americans citizens had to be evacuated, and
>they obviously couldnt say they had been forwarding information to the
>Egyptians.
>
>The press didnt buy that. Then the Pentagon floated the rumour that the ship
>was their to spy on Russian installations ostensibly in Egypt, but there
>were only 12 miles away from Gaza, and that didnt quite fly either so and by
>the way the final Coup de gra was the Liberty was not under the command of
>the US Navy, it was under command of guess who, the National Security
>Agency. If you know its mission, you understand what thats all about.
>
>Note booklet accompanying the briefing packet.
>
>The sources of the briefing pack (not mine)
>
>Primary:
>
>A Place among the Nations, Benjamin Netanyahu, Bantam books, New York, NY,
>1993
>
>From Time Immemorial : The Origins of the Arab - Jewish conflict over
>Palestine. Harper and Row, New York,NY 1984. A definitive study revealing
>the behind the myths.
>
>Currently available from
>http://www.dxmarket.com/worldnetdaily/products/B0062.html
>
>Jerusalem Betrayed, Mike Evans. Word Publishing, Dallas, Tx, 1997
>
>A Cup of Trembling, Dave Hunt, Harvest house, Eugene, OR, 1996
>
>The Secret War against the Jews : How Western Espionage betrayed the Jewish
>People. St Martins Press, New York, NY, 1994
>
>Can Israel Survive in a Hostile World ? David Allen Lewis. New Leaf Press,
>Green forest, AR 1994
>
>Jeremy Compton
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