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Willard Hardman <[log in to unmask]>
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Cloaks-and-Daggers Open Discussion of Intelligence (Academic)
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To which I would reply Amen!

Willard Hardman, PhD
CUA

----- Original Message -----
From: "cfpottins2" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 2:57 AM
Subject: Re: REGARDING OFER'S STUFF


> Could we have a moratorium on all this stuff?  I'm Jewish, I support the
> Intifada, and I couldn't really give a damn about who lived where 3,000
years
> ago, the problem is to find a solution for the people who live there now.
It's
> nice of Western Christians to offer their advice, usually revealing either
> ignorant prejudices,  antisemitism, overt or concealed, or half-remembered
Bible
> class stories, but frankly - thanks, but no thanks. I could say more, at
the
> risk of being offensive, like finding it ironic for Americans to lecture
others
> about stealig land and oppressing other peoples, or of  Western Christians
who
> persecuted and excluded Jews driving them to Palestine now preaching to
the
> Palestinians to give up their aspirations for freedom. But enough. The
point is,
> I can go to meetings and discussions with all sorts of people who know
what
> they're talking  about on the Middle East, and listen to people who're
involved,
> because they live there. There are also websites, and online discussions
like
> Yahoo's Middle East Socialist Network. But I came into this group for
objective
> information on intelligence and related topics, and to exchange
information on
> what states and organisations do, not arguments about what to call it.
Next
> thing you now we'll be getting reports on Joshua's spies,  and
who-smote-who,
> and debating Samson's cruelty in attaching incendiary devices to foxes,
and his
> action (as played by Victor Mature) in bringing down the temple!
> Enough, already!
>
> Charlie.
>
> Matthew McDaniel wrote:
>
> > A mere handful of Jews, frequently disliked where ever
> > they have lived, fled their homes and businesses in far away=20
> > places and chose as their new homeland a very small plot of=20
> > land in the middle of people who have fought with them for=20
> > thousands of years.  On arrival, they took charge of the=20
> > government, created a military, and began spreading their=20
> > influence deep into what had long been Arab country.  And=20
> > the spreading continues today.  Is it no wonder Israel is=20
> > bombarded by rocks, rockets and crazies like no other place=20
> > on earth?
> >
> > The Jews have been there for some 3500 years.
> >
> > Maybe longer.
> >
> > Course coming home may well be disputed, but you can't fault a Jew for
that.
> >
> > The more interesting thing is what the Jew is about.  They say they are
the
> > chosen people, that they are the ones who were given the oracles of God
for
> > how men should live.
> >
> > The intend to build the third temple.
> >
> > The temple was a mostly empty rectangular building that was designed for
one
> > thing only.
> >
> > For human beings to meet the presence of God himself.
> >
> > We have two choices, either this is a hoax or it is true.  We leave that
to
> > the Jews to prove, but if it is true, they will not be stopped and they
will
> > take hold of the prediction that they will rule the world, not as
suffering
> > victims, but with a rod of iron.
> >
> > The Palestinians are on the other side of that bet, that it is a hoax.
> > They fought the Jordanians and lost.
> > They fought the Lebanese militia and lost.
> > They fought the Kuwaitis and lost.
> > They have repeatedly fought the Israelis and lost.
> >
> > The Israelis want a certain border of land.  I don't know if it has been
> > stated publically what this is which is probably their intent, but they
will
> > more than likely take it, whatever the world says, and are more than
willing
> > to nuke those who want to mouth off now, but had nothing to say during
the
> > times of Hitler.
> >
> > More power to them.
> >
> > Matthew McDaniel
>

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