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Andrej Grubacic <[log in to unmask]>
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The philosophy, work & influences of Noam Chomsky
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 To flame up the discussion, here is the answer from my friend who is a socialist  and a judge in one western country, and my reply:

Dear Andrej,

Thank you for this mail
1) can you indicate to me precisely the address of the page where readerscan
find it ?
2) I think that Jared attempt to attack ITN remains a rearguard fights that
doesn't really cope with the real problems
He tries to show that
- ITN used shortcuts
- there were passages in which Trnopolje could seem like a softer camp than it

was in fact
- the doctor provided a false testimony

As far as the doctor is concerned, if LM and jared are so sure that tehre was
a wrong testimony in the process, they can trial the Muslim witness for that. 

And, even if you suppose that Jared is right on the 3 themes, it doesn't mean
that the judge was wrong. The judge considered he could only condemn ITN if
Trnopolje was really a softer camp than the pictures show. As far as I know,
LM failed to prove that Trnopolje was a "soft camp", and I'm still waiting for

evidences about it, on Internat for example. 

Likewise, as a lover of truth (like me) I guess you will follow very carefully

the trial of Krstic in front of the ICT. People like S. Flounders said there
were no mass slaughters in Srbrenica, it's time for us to see clearly what
comes out of the debates in front of the ICT about it right now . It's not
enough saying that the US gave money to the ICT. We must also see very
precisely what is said during the debates, and make our own opinion with any
dogmatic pro or anti- Western media prejudices. 

Your friend 
----------------

Unfortunately, starting from today, LM doesnt exist anymore, it has been
destroyed by bankrupt....
..  Well, as of earlier today you could
> > > NOT
> > > go to the LM website to hear their side.  They've been shut down.  As
> > > far as
> > > I know, ITN still has a major news station, and ALL the reporting has
> > > backed
> > > their side of the story.

They have been awarded as "the most progressive magazine in UK" last year,
and during it's existance it was fighting courageously against corporate and
goverment medias in UK. They discovered the "fake- trial" Jared is
mentioning about Iraq....
And they had probably the best and most open forum on the web. It is a
bloody shame....
Well as far as trial is concerned, you are right from formal and ethical
point of view. Truth is still out there , as they say. I am closer to LM arguments
than to one of Penny Marshal, because of my mistrust to  corporate
"journalism of attachement" inaugurated by English reportes.
To quote Jared:
> > If one doubts the possibility of this consider: during the war against
> > > Iraq
> > > the daughter (I believe - anyway, some relative) of the Kuwaiti
> > > Ambassador (a
> > > neighbor of Kennedy, known to Jesse Helms as well) was brought to
> > > testify in
> > > Congress.  She masqueraded as a nurse (now they have doctors!) and
said
> > > Iraqi
> > > soldiers were pulling babies out of incubators.  Do you all recall
that
> > > story?  And wasn't it a total lie?  It is not hard to produce false
> > > witness,
> > > especially if you have the combined financial/political power of all
of
> > > NATO
> > > behind you, especially if NATO and a big news station's combined
> > > credibility
> > > are at stake.  Money talks; money buys lies.
> >

It is true that the nurse -case was fabricated and it is true that money buys
lies, especially in cases like this.
 One of the best magazines and web sites in the world has been destroyed, and
I think that the fact they didnt wanted to back-up ( ITN said: "if you
apologize for your lies, we will spare you") is saying much.....
 As for S. Flounders, I appreciate her very much, but she is riding on "to be
a pro-Serb always" wave, which is maybe usefull ( as argued) for building US
antiwar movement, but for me is ethicaly reprehensible. Is it possible for
strong movement to be built upon half -truths or lies?  We need an
exemination, a detail one, and only after that a conclusion. S. Flounders is
jumpimg to conclusions, in good faith, but nevertheless.
 Markale incident and Vasa Miskin incident were faked, as it was proved.
Same goes for acak massacre and the one in Romania. They all served a
purpose of being pretext for millitary actions. But Srebrenica needs more
evidences and I dont admire "Serbs are always innocent" point of view, even
if it is "strategicaly usefull". Because "Serbs" are never innocent and
never guilty. Some Serbs, and I believe in that, are guilty for gruessome
crimes.....
               Andrej



    

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