Believe me, if Jersey were trying to secede, you'd hear the bombs in
Moscow...
-----Original Message-----
From: Martin William Smith <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 2:20 AM
Subject: Re: [CHOMSKY] My posts(or lack of them)


>Milutin writes:
>> Martin wrote:
>> >I have seen no messages from Milutin protesting the bombing of
>> Chechnya.
>>
>> Nor have you seen any on the bombing of Iraq(continues still today),
>> or the violence in East Timor(oh, Clinton can’t call this
>> genocide), or the daily horrors which we just call
>> “capitalism”.
>
>Just stick to your double standard on bombing, Milutin.  You protested
>the NATO bombing; you did not protest the Russian bombing.  Double
>standard.  Milutin's moral code is swiss cheese.
>
>> I subsidies these activities.  It’s against my will though(not
>> according to Martin, because “I can leave this country whenever I
>> want”).
>
>So it's not about morality.  It's not about solidarity.  It's about
>money.  You don't like subsidizing these activities.  If you aren't
>subsidizing them, they don't count.
>
>> >Nobody else has protested the bombing of Chechnya either.  Not on this
>> list, and nowhere else, either, that I have seen.
>>
>> I agree, the areas I’m more involved in haven’t said a word on it
>> either(that I’ve noticed).
>>
>> >So can we finally admit that the protests of the NATO bombing were not
>> motivated by the immorality of bombing?
>>
>> Quick jump to that conclusion.  I think you would have to provide a
little
>> bit more evidence?
>
>You just did provide evidence above, and you will provide more
>evidence below.  You are concerned about your tax money.  You don't
>want your tax money to be used for bombing.
>
>> >Because, apparently, bombing Chechens is ok.  Bombing Serbs is not.
>>
>> Much of these Chomsky list has been silent for a few weeks now.  My
>> anti-Nato stuff was first in responds to others and then I started
posting
>> other relevant stuff.
>>
>> I have to admit though, it is much different when you complain about the
>> bombing of Iraq, or genocide in East Timor(the worst case since the
>> Holocaust) then when your dealing with the country where all your family
>> roots lie.  When they start bombing the city you were born in -- it is a
>> little different.
>
>In addition to your worries about how your tax money is spent, you are
>nostalgic.  No statement about the immorality of bombing human
>beings, just don't use my money to subsidize it, and don't bomb the
>place where I was born.
>
>> Now, my knowledge of YU and the Bosnian war is disproportionate to
>> the amount suffering there(relative to other events in recent
>> history).  So I feel guilty that I don’t know as much as what
>> happened and is happening in El Salvador as I do in Kosovo.
>
>What a guy!  Admit "guilt" about not knowing much about El Salvador
>(Where did that come from? The Russians are bombing Chechnya), and
>then use that "guilt" as the excuse for not protesting the immoral act
>of bombing human beings.
>
>> But, when people see my name they expect me to know more about YU
>> and so I’m forced to be more educated on it.
>
>...and, of course, there is your reputation to think of.
>
>> When it comes to warfare in the last 50 years, YU has suffered the
>> least (per day, very low intensity).  Of course, knowing the more
>> extreme cases in other places of the world, like East Timor and
>> Guatemala, puts everything in perspective.
>
>Not a word about Chechnya.  Like I said, Chechens are infidels.  They
>don't exist.
>
>martin
>
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