The crocodile tears below for 'lack of freedom' in Yugo. might be
shed as real tears for the millions murdered by the US empire in Central,
South Am. and South east Asia.  Come on you know there's a subtext here,
off the socialists; and the infamous IMF is proving it by setting the
usual conditions for lifting the blockade; convert the extensive worker
benefits in Yugo. to profits for US capitalists.
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> J.J. Dobkin wrote excoriating me......
> <Oh really, Tony? This is exactly the argument that politicians in the
> US and other western powers use--anybody who criticizes the status quo
> when it's involved in a military action is unpatriotic, in fact,
> downright disloyal. I'm surprised that anybody on this list would
> actually parrot such slanderous nonsense.>
>
> And why is it 'slanderous nonsense' to state the obvious.      When your
> country's imperialist rulers begin a barrrage of demonization against
> the leader of the country they have decided to bomb, it 's hardly the
> time for Left intellectuals to leap in with oodles of 'analysis'
> agreeing with what a devil The Ruling Crum of our own countries are
> after.    Don't accuse me of being a parrot for criticizing the parrots.
>
> If Yugoslavs want to criticize Milosevic for getting them into a fight
> with The Big Guys, that's an entirely different matter than Noam and J.
> going to bat against Milosevic, also.      Is that really so hard a
> distinction to understand?
> .........
> To my comment about it not being our business in the imperialist bloc
> regarding the matter of Montenegro's status as independent or not, J.J.
> Dobkin again wants to take me to task.....
>
> <The same reason it's our business what happens to human beings denied
> their freedom anywhere else. Did you ask whether it was our business
> whether black South Africans should or should not have the same rights
> as white South Africans? Do you ask what business it is of ours whether
> Palestineans should or should not live under Israeli occupation? Or what
> business it is of ours whether Nike's sweatshop workers in places like
> China and Indonesia are allowed to unionize? If not, how dare you
> question the Montenegrin's right to secession--and our responsibility to
> support them when it's as clear as it is that that's what most
> Montenegrins want.>
>
> Do you not see any difference between your analogies and Montenegro, Mr.
> Dobkin?    The oppession of Palestinians, Black South Africans, and Nike
> victims is all something that the imperialist countries have had, and
> still have an active hand in.
>
> You seem to find 'our responsibility' to be in deciding the affairs of
> ALL the world, including deciding that the country we just bombed should
> be partitioned in a manner that J. J. Dobkin has decided is just!
>
> 'How dare I to question the  Montenegrin's right to successsion'?
> Come now, Mr. Dobkin, I didn't do that, did I?     I said simply that it
> was none of our business.    How dare you butt into the business of The
> Balkan peoples behind the guns of your own ruling classes.     And to do
> it in the name of 'rights', no less.
>
> Tony Abdo
>