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"Michael H. Collis" <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:33:56 -0400
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Those are handguns statistics; the rifle and shotgun owners are higher,
I would imagine..

Trisha Cummings wrote:

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>        And I looked up the numbers - and I keep coming up with 8 million legal =
>handguns - which is about 1/3 of the population. I wonder what the =
>number and percent of illegal guns and gun owners there are.
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>                                             Trisha
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>>Trisha, the percentage of Americans owning firearms for protection is =
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>on the
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>>rise--particularly among women.  Most "think tanks"--liberal &
>>conservative--attribute this to a general feeling of insecurity post =
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>9/11
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>>and, to a lesser degree, a ruling in Federal Court (California) =
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>stating that
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>>police agencies are NOT bound to protect individuals from harm (upheld =
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>on
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>>appeal).  In a nutshell, what this means is that LE officers do not =
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>have to
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>>put themselves in harm's way to prevent a violent crime.  This stemmed =
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>from
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>>a case where a California woman was being stalked and threatened by =
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>her
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>>ex-husband.  He ignored restraining orders and her requests for =
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>"police
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>>protection" were denied.  She then requested a permit to carry a =
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>handgun,
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>>citing viable reason, and that request was also denied.  The long and =
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>short
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>>of it was that her ex ended up killing her, the family brought suit =
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>against
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>>the state and the courts decreed, through several appeals, that the
>>"government" has no inherent duty to protect individual lives.  I can
>>provide details when I get time later, if anyone wants.
>>=20
>>Kyle
>>=20
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Trisha Cummings [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 7:33 AM
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: documentary
>>=20
>>=20
>>Hi Deri,
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>>   You said just what I thought!! - Also since the feds have a well =
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>equipped
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>>military - not sure what a handgun can do against a tank or APC, or =
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>Hummer -
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>>macine gun, etc.  I am sure the founders never imagined the kind of =
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>weapons
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>>we have today or we would all have the constitutional right to a bomb
>>shelter, and mandatory military service. I am truly curious what =
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>actual
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>>percentage of Amercian own a gun - beyond the military and police, =
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>FBI, CIA
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>>and other alphabet soup agencies.
>>=20
>>   How are things across the pond these days?
>>=20
>>                                     Trisha
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>>>On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 4:38 pm, you wrote:
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>>>>as far as gun control. putting all the bs about
>>>>hunting and sceet shooting aside where it should be.
>>>>the founders put gun ownership in so the future>=20
>>>>oppresive governments could be overthrown.
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>>>Hmm, difficult to fight off Poison Gas and other WMD (which your gov =
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>has)
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>>with
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>>>handguns, at the time the founders wrote that they were saying the
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>>populace
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>>>should have the same weapons as the gov. Personal Nukes? Luverly!!
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>>>Cheers
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>>>Deri
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