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ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:57:49 -0700
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i hope it'll be better, but i really will be surprised
if it is. 

--- ken barber <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> i am of the opinion that you'll get to see if you
> like
> it or not. however if you decide you don't like it
> you'll not get to go back to where you were. like it
> or not you'll have it. 
> 
> --- Kathy <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> > Market forces are also limited when your insurer
> > limits your accessibility 
> > to an in-house network and the amount you can pay
> > due to deductibles and 
> > out-of-pocket maximums.  Those who need it the
> most
> > can't get what need.  I 
> > do see problems with the Canadian insurance system
> > but I think I'd prefer it 
> > to what we have now.
> > 
> > Kat
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "ehthiers" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 9:11 PM
> > Newsgroups:   bit.listserv.c-palsy
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: An actual CP related question!
> > 
> > > Pure capitalism doesn't work in the medical
> system
> > though.  Miami has one 
> > > of
> > > the highest per capita rates of doctors but,
> also
> > some of the highest
> > > medical costs.  There are only so many
> customers,
> > you have to spend lots 
> > > of
> > > money on equipment you can't share with anyone
> > else, and you have to make 
> > > up
> > > your costs somehow.  People need what they need
> > are going to have to 
> > > access
> > > it.  We can't find out the prices to comparison
> > shop because different
> > > people are charged differently and if you are
> the
> > government or insurance
> > > companies, you just ignore what the going rate
> is
> > and make up your own.
> > > Here in Florida, people who accept Medicaid
> > haven't had a pay raise in 
> > > over
> > > 10 years as the government (Florida) will not
> pay
> > more and you can only 
> > > see
> > > one kid at a time and adults on regular Medicaid
> > rehab isn't even paid. 
> > > I'm
> > > so glad I'm out of that system.
> > >
> > > Beth t.
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Cerebral Palsy List
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > >> On Behalf Of ken barber
> > >> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 11:21 AM
> > >> To: [log in to unmask]
> > >> Subject: Re: An actual CP related question!
> > >>
> > >> in a pure capitalistic system competition is
> > suppose to come
> > >> in and cause prices to drop. but then when
> there
> > is
> > >> governments regs as in the drug industry...
> > >>   you know what "industry" actually dwARfs the
> > drug industry
> > >> in price increases? also dwarfs all others
> > >>   take a look at tuition in colleges.
> > >> i do not know any where that there is a pure
> > capitalist system.
> > >>
> > >> --- "Michael H. Collis" <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Well, In a pure capitalistic system. it looks
> > like the poor get
> > >> > screwed.
> > >> >
> > >> > ---- Original message ----
> > >> > >Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 18:40:19 -0700
> > >> > >From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> > >> > >Subject: Re: An actual CP related question!
> > >> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >> > >
> > >> > >well deri in health care there are three
> > things to have.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >1. it can be good, 2. it can be cheap 3 it
> can
> > be fast.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >however it can be only 2 of these at a time.
> > if it
> > >> > is
> > >> > >good and cheap, then it is not fast. if it
> is
> > fast
> > >> > and
> > >> > >cheap, then it is not good. if it is fast
> and
> > good then it is not
> > >> > >cheap.  the USA right now has fast
> > >> > and
> > >> > >good.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >there it is in a nutshell folks. choose what
> > you
> > >> > want.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >hey, beth, you have your hands on health
> care
> > in florida.
> > >> is it true
> > >> > >that some doctors make their practice on
> > treating
> > >> canadians wintering
> > >> > >in florida getting treatment before going
> back
> > north in the summer?
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >--- Deri James <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> On Sunday 09 March 2008 03:34:16 ken
> barber
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > >> > do i dare point out that the canadian
> > health
> > >> > care
> > >> > >> that
> > >> > >> > Meir described is what both democratic
> > >> > canidates
> > >> > >> are
> > >> > >> > wanting.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Hi Ken,
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Do I dare point out that medical care
> costs,
> > if
> > >> > it
> > >> > >> is underfunded the care
> > >> > >> will not be as good as a well funded
> system.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Personally I do not like private companies
> > making
> > >> > a
> > >> > >> profit from ill health and
> > >> > >> prefer a system where good healthcare is
> > provided through an
> > >> > >> equitable tax system, but it does cost.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Cheers
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Deri
> > >> > >>
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> > >>
> >
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