that was not very bright of them. 


--- On Fri, 11/21/08, Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Auto bailout
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 7:12 AM
> Hi Virginia,
> 
>   I was amused that the auto beggars - all arrived here in
> their private
> jets. Not a one of them has a qualm about wasting the money
> on their
> comfort - and there are 24 commercial flights a day from
> Detroit to
> Washington, which would truly have cost less. I think a
> flight in a
> private plane cost like 10,000 a pop, plus you have to have
> pilots on
> staff, a place to park and maintain the planes. They have
> dug the hole
> themselves by not wanting to give up anything - assembly
> line workers
> get I think 60,000 a year and lots of bennies and the
> bigwigs - well one
> of them made 17 million last year. I am not crying for
> them. They have
> had 30 years to see the writing on the wall and chose not
> to - and its
> not like all the foreign car companies don't have auto
> plants here using
> American workers and making hybrid cars. So they should
> have emulated
> the competition instead of waiting to be bailed out, and
> the Money they
> set aside for the in 2007 was contingent on them figuring
> out how to get
> better gas mileage and only GM with its battery idea did
> anything.
> What's amazing in Finland they are running Hydrogen
> cars in some areas.
> The technology and ideas are out there they are just
> ignoring - of
> course part of this is the union problem. The manufactures
> can't retool
> a factory without union approval - and they are slow to
> give that - so
> it's easier for the company to close a plant and build
> a new one
> somewhere else. The days of the unions need to be over.
> 
>                         Trisha
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cerebral Palsy List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> Of Virginia Perry
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 12:32 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Auto bailout
> 
> Depends on how far north you are. The Idaho National
> Laboratory uses
> altern=
> atively-fueled vehicles out at their lab on the desert.
> They have
> parking l=
> ots with plug-ins. I've seen a few other places in the
> far north where
> hote=
> ls have outlets for guests to plug in the heaters inside
> cars up here so
> th=
> e guests can start their cars in the morning. I think if
> they could
> charge =
> a bit extra=2C parking garages and other controlled entry
> parking areas
> cou=
> ld install outlets for electric cars. If there's money
> in it....
> > Date: Thu=2C 20 Nov 2008 18:19:21 -0800> From:
> [log in to unmask]>
> Subje=
> ct: Re: Auto bailout> To: [log in to unmask]>
> > how many outlets
> do=
>  you see in parking lots? mag=2C think about what you are
> saying. > > i
> too=
>  hope they get the batteries to last longer. > > >
> --- On Wed=2C
> 11/19/08=
> =2C Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:>
> > > From: Tamar Raine
> <tama=
> [log in to unmask]>> > Subject: Re: Auto
> bailout> > To:
> [log in to unmask]>=
>  > Date: Wednesday=2C November 19=2C 2008=2C 11:33
> PM> > the people who
> nee=
> d to do all kinds of deliveries i could> > see the
> prob. but if you are
> goi=
> ng to work for 8 hours a> > day=2C why not charge it
> at work? > >
> well=2C w=
> hen they figure out how to do it=2C i hope they make a>
> > hearing aid
> batte=
> ry that lasts 6 months=2C it'd be better> > for
> the environment than a
> bag =
> full of batteries going to> > landfills. i'd also
> love a lap top battery
> th=
> at> > doesn't die after 4 hours. > > >
> > > >
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> ________________________________> > From: ken barber
> <ken=
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> Wednesday=2C N=
> ovember 19=2C 2008 8:21:20 PM> > Subject: Re: Auto
> bailout> > > > people
> do=
>  trips that takes more than 250 miles a day. it> >
> takes time to charhe
> a b=
> attery. > > > > > > --- On Wed=2C
> 11/19/08=2C Tamar Raine> >
> <tamarmag510@Y=
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> Raine <[log in to unmask]>> > >
> Su=
> bject: Re: Auto bailout> > > To:
> [log in to unmask]> > > Date:
> Wedn=
> esday=2C November 19=2C 2008=2C 10:43 PM> > > why
> 400 miles? i'd say 250
> mi=
> les between> > charges.  our> > > county has
> busses that are hydrogen
> vehic=
> les.> > >  > > >
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> esday=2C November 19=2C 2008 6:46:10 PM> > >
> Subject: Re: Auto bailout>
> > >=
>  > > > I've seen on buses now bike racks so
> for those who> > need> > >
> to g=
> o a  long > > > distance they can ride the bus
> then take their bike> >
> the>=
>  > > rest of the  way.  It does > > > not
> help me because I ride a three
> wh=
> eeler. I take> > the > > > bus every day.  I
> ride > > > back and forth
> to t=
> he store in the summer and some > > winter> >
> > days.  If the auto > > >
> co=
> mpanies gets bailed out they should be made to > >
> switch> > > from gas
> to =
> electric > > > or some alternative fuel source. 
> The main  problem> >
> is> >=
>  > trying to get an > > > electric car battery
> to last for 400 miles
> betwee=
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