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i am of the opinion that you'll get to see if you like
it or not. however if you decide you don't like it
you'll not get to go back to where you were. like it
or not you'll have it. 

--- Kathy <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Market forces are also limited when your insurer
> limits your accessibility 
> to an in-house network and the amount you can pay
> due to deductibles and 
> out-of-pocket maximums.  Those who need it the most
> can't get what need.  I 
> do see problems with the Canadian insurance system
> but I think I'd prefer it 
> to what we have now.
> 
> Kat
> 
> 
> 
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> From: "ehthiers" <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 9:11 PM
> Newsgroups:   bit.listserv.c-palsy
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: An actual CP related question!
> 
> > Pure capitalism doesn't work in the medical system
> though.  Miami has one 
> > of
> > the highest per capita rates of doctors but, also
> some of the highest
> > medical costs.  There are only so many customers,
> you have to spend lots 
> > of
> > money on equipment you can't share with anyone
> else, and you have to make 
> > up
> > your costs somehow.  People need what they need
> are going to have to 
> > access
> > it.  We can't find out the prices to comparison
> shop because different
> > people are charged differently and if you are the
> government or insurance
> > companies, you just ignore what the going rate is
> and make up your own.
> > Here in Florida, people who accept Medicaid
> haven't had a pay raise in 
> > over
> > 10 years as the government (Florida) will not pay
> more and you can only 
> > see
> > one kid at a time and adults on regular Medicaid
> rehab isn't even paid. 
> > I'm
> > so glad I'm out of that system.
> >
> > Beth t.
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Cerebral Palsy List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> >> On Behalf Of ken barber
> >> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 11:21 AM
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Re: An actual CP related question!
> >>
> >> in a pure capitalistic system competition is
> suppose to come
> >> in and cause prices to drop. but then when there
> is
> >> governments regs as in the drug industry...
> >>   you know what "industry" actually dwARfs the
> drug industry
> >> in price increases? also dwarfs all others
> >>   take a look at tuition in colleges.
> >> i do not know any where that there is a pure
> capitalist system.
> >>
> >> --- "Michael H. Collis" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Well, In a pure capitalistic system. it looks
> like the poor get
> >> > screwed.
> >> >
> >> > ---- Original message ----
> >> > >Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 18:40:19 -0700
> >> > >From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > >Subject: Re: An actual CP related question!
> >> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> >> > >
> >> > >well deri in health care there are three
> things to have.
> >> > >
> >> > >1. it can be good, 2. it can be cheap 3 it can
> be fast.
> >> > >
> >> > >however it can be only 2 of these at a time.
> if it
> >> > is
> >> > >good and cheap, then it is not fast. if it is
> fast
> >> > and
> >> > >cheap, then it is not good. if it is fast and
> good then it is not
> >> > >cheap.  the USA right now has fast
> >> > and
> >> > >good.
> >> > >
> >> > >there it is in a nutshell folks. choose what
> you
> >> > want.
> >> > >
> >> > >hey, beth, you have your hands on health care
> in florida.
> >> is it true
> >> > >that some doctors make their practice on
> treating
> >> canadians wintering
> >> > >in florida getting treatment before going back
> north in the summer?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >--- Deri James <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> On Sunday 09 March 2008 03:34:16 ken barber
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >> > do i dare point out that the canadian
> health
> >> > care
> >> > >> that
> >> > >> > Meir described is what both democratic
> >> > canidates
> >> > >> are
> >> > >> > wanting.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Hi Ken,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Do I dare point out that medical care costs,
> if
> >> > it
> >> > >> is underfunded the care
> >> > >> will not be as good as a well funded system.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Personally I do not like private companies
> making
> >> > a
> >> > >> profit from ill health and
> >> > >> prefer a system where good healthcare is
> provided through an
> >> > >> equitable tax system, but it does cost.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Cheers
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Deri
> >> > >>
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