I am with KAT on this, used to be pro choice, but when I learned the history of the abortion rights movement, and its ties to the euthenasia movement, which ultimately inspired hitler - Plus I appreciate my life and who I am- I am now, pro-life save for the life of the mother.
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----- Original Message ----
From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 9:02:09 AM
Subject: Re: not what if/ and rate of CP not the same
this is why i am pro life guys.
--- Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi Kyle,
>
> What I am curious about is when she says they
> saved her baby without
> her knowing - Is she saying - she would have had
> them not save the baby?
> While it is true that CP rates are up because they
> can save babies
> earlier and earlier - it ends up being a moral
> question - Deciding who
> lives and who dies. Unless you are clairvoyant one
> can't predict how the
> child will turn out - I mean Amber was projected to
> be much more
> seriously disabled than she is. One should
> understand from the moment
> one is pregnant that a fat healthy baby may well not
> be the outcome -
> and if you are not able to accept anything but the
> Gerber Baby- you need
> to be neutered. Because you are seriously too stupid
> to have children in
> the first place. Plus then the first time you
> exhibit a defect - they
> should kill you. So anyone with anything other
> perfect health buys the
> farm? Ouch, no Roosevelt - no Hawking.
>
> Trisha - who also thinks she about to
> be offended - very
> offended at that
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cerebral Palsy List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> Of Cleveland, Kyle E.
> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:53 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: not what if/ and rate of CP not the
> same
>
> Let me get this straight--I want to be absolutely
> sure I understand what
> you're implying here. "Saving" premature babies in
> order to bring them
> into the ranks of the living is problem? So medical
> science should not
> be used to protect and preserve a life if that life
> is too fragile to
> survive without it? =20
>
> I daresay that many of us on this list would not be
> here if that were
> the case. Would it have been better to let us all
> perish because, after
> all, life with a kid with disabilities is going to
> be more difficult
> than raising a healthy child, right?
>
> There are a bunch of us on this list whose parents
> were advised to
> "institutionalize" us as small children because we
> would never walk,
> talk, or have cognitive abilities greater than the
> average grapefruit.
> I think as a group we've disproved that notion.
>
> I think I am about to be offended. I hope you can
> change my mind.
>
> Kyle
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cerebral Palsy List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> Of [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:21 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: not what if/ and rate of CP not the
> same
>
> First off I was not saying... what if... I mentioned
> the fact that the
> dr's=20
> did not tell me they were saving my child. I was
> mention the stem cell
> thing=20
> so if any of you had saved your cord blood you may
> want to check into
> it. I=20
> think all they did was give him his blood back but
> it did not say... so
> you=20
> would have to look into it.
> =20
> As to the rates of CP.... they were the 1 birth
> problem that was way
> down=20
> 'UNTIL' 20 or 30 years ago when doctor started
> 'saving' and
> experimenting and=20
> making millions of preemies and their families. The
> rate were down
> because of=20
> better prenatal care but then when they started
> adding the smaller and
> smaller=20
> babies back to the living the rates of CP when right
> back up.
> =20
> Just a thought-
> Kristina
>
>
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