Hey gang,

        Sorry about my "misfire"(no sick pun intended)! I am back and feeling
fine. I have had little or no pain from the surgery. Sitting home I watched
a lot of CNN and MSNBC. One factor these pundits never mention is the
enormous amount of coverage the "news" networks give to such tragedies. And
they never consider some sicko sitting out there, thinking "this is my way
to immortality".
As far as "causes" I am reminded of the Pogo cartoon where it's stated "We
have met the enemy and they is us!" The miracle lies in the fact that more
Littleton's have not occurred!!! We have some sick folk in our society!

Bobby


>well, there is much talk, but, ....
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bobby Greer [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
>> Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 11:44 AM
>> To:   [log in to unmask]
>> Subject:      Re: Reaction to Colorado shootings
>>
>> List
>>
>>         I am back and feeling better >     Good Morning,           I am on
>> a  list for children born in 1986 and this was thrown out. Frankly, this
>> effects  all of our kids!!   >From: Alana  >You asked what our schools
>> have
>> done about violence  in the past couple of
>> >>days. Alex (86) said the principal said (over the  intercom) that what
>> >>happened in Colorado was unfortunate and that they  hoped it didn't
>> happen
>> >>here.
>> >
>> >        More  importantly - what are you doing? What are you saying to
>> your
>> >children?
>> >
>> >        Children  exist years before the school starts and then in all
>> the
>> >hours of the day  before and after school. They don't come out suspended
>> >animation go to school  and then re-suspend after 7th  period!
>> >
>> >        Everyone is looking to  "someone else" to solve the problems -
>> the
>> >someone else is us! I  have no idea what was said at my daughter school
>> as
>> >the day after was an all  off school chorus and orchestra concert. And
>> the
>> >next was take your daughter  to work day. I would like to know what they
>> are
>> >saying - more because   we over emphasis things and make our  children
>> >frightened.
>> >
>> >        Kids  take their cues from us - ever watch a real little one fall
>> >down and then  check your face for a reaction before they react. I have -
>> >when the Mom looks  horrified the kid starts crying and carring on. When
>> my
>> >kid took a nose dive,  I would do a quick visual check and then laughed
>> and
>> >picked her  - and  she would laugh to and be fine. So still today when
>> stuff
>> >happens its no big  deal. We are giving the kids a signal when we make an
>> >incident a major  tragedy.
>> >
>> >        The news takes any  little item they can and blow it up and
>> mostly
>> >the negative imaginary ones.  They get in their digs. I read in one
>> article
>> >one of the girls had been a  Witch and only found religion recently and
>> >returned to fold of Christianity.  What on Earth did have to do anything?
>> Who
>> >doesn't understand that Witchcraft  is a religion? Or that children who
>> do
>> >their version of WitchCraft aren't  real followers of the the true Old
>> >Religion but are fascinated by the dark  side that Christainity has made
>> and
>> >use as  propaganda.
>> >
>> >        I will talk with  my daughter - I will explain that those kids
>> that
>> >did the shootings are sign  of our times. Times in which we allow
>> everyone
>> >else to raise our children.  When we refuse to be the force of change
>> >because - its someone else job. The  time when big houses, fancy cars and
>> >having stuff - take presidence over  being home and baking cookies. When
>> Mom
>> >and Dad are more into themselves then  the offspring they produced. When
>> our
>> >teenagers want to have babies because  they want someone to love them.
>> The
>> >problem is not with our children - its  with their adults. I will explain
>> -
>> >that all the things people like to blame  stuff on - so they don't need
>> look
>> >at themselves to hard - will once again  raise its head. She will need to
>> >extra careful - We are Pagan - In fact we  are Witches - One of the most
>> >amusing things that happens to me (I am a   Minister and Priestess)  is
>> when
>> >I do stuff and people tell - What a  good Christian I am.  As tho there
>> no
>> >other good people in the world.  So, we are subject to violent verbal
>> >attacks. She knows - that we are  "forbidden to harm" and that the
>> threefold
>> >law - what ever you do  comes back to you in triplicate -  works.
>> >
>> >        And what are you going  to about this? Beyond shake your head and
>> >complain and look to more  government and state intervention. How
>> involved
>> >are you in your school. Are  you on the PTA?  Do you chaperon events? Do
>> you
>> >go to school events? Who  does your child come home to?  Do you know
>> their
>> >teachers?
>> >
>> >        I am on the  PTA, I chaperon the chorus, I go to Amber's school
>> >events, I am home >from  work ( albeit all of 5 minutes LOL) before Amber
>> gets
>> >home. I have met all  her teachers. I am a single parent - I do work
>> fulltime
>> >and Amber does have  to get herself off to school in the morning - her
>> "Aunt"
>> >Cin lives  4 houses down. She gets up at 6:15 and is out of the house at
>> >7:00. One night  a week I take a class - I am working on a Master's
>> degree.
>> >The other 6 nights  - I am home. Amber plays softball, she in Girl
>> Scouts, I
>> >have her in  Religious Education class at the Universalist Unitarian we
>> >belong to. What am  I going to do about this? I am going to talk to the
>> >people at the school, and  I am going to start a Pagan Youth Group -
>> Amber is
>> >at the end of 7th grade  and only one more of middle school then she to
>> will
>> >be in HIgh School. As I  watched the children in Orchestra and Chorus
>> >preforming Wednesday - I tried  to imagine this happening at the high
>> school
>> >here. You know - it didn't take  a big leap - I have been to the high
>> school
>> >and seen the Police cars there. I  have a friend who is a teachers aid at
>> one
>> >of the schools for the distrubtive  kids, and they are in and out of Juvy
>> >hall or jail if they are over 18. If  each and everyone of us doesn't
>> make a
>> >commitment to put one of  "our" things aside and spend that time with our
>> >kids -
>> >they will be  lost. Children don't need fancy houses and cars and things
>> -
>> >they need  us!
>> >
>> >                                       Brightest  Blessings
>> >                                            Trisha? Rev. Raynyng Angel
>> >
>> >