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ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
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yjry claimed they had no drivers. can't police and firemen drive a bus in an emergency. it was just a total failire at the local level. 


--- On Wed, 8/27/08, Kendall D. Corbett <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: Kendall D. Corbett <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: New Orleans and Gustav
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 7:01 PM
> Kyle, et al,
> 
> I filled up today; the unused school busses point out the
> need for
> coordination between all local entities.  School districts
> also have one of
> the larger pools of accessible busses in many communities,
> and that could
> save the lives of a lot of people with disabilities. 
> We've pushed for
> enhanced coordination between our schools, paratransit
> providers and
> individuals with accessible vehicles in case of the need to
> evacuate a large
> number of people with disabilities.  We've even
> discussed using horse
> trailers for short distance evacuations (many are ramped,
> or could be easily
> in an emergency).  I'd a lot rather share a ride with
> horse manure than
> drown or die from fire  or whatever.
> 
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Cleveland, Kyle E. <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> > Ken, that's absolutely true.  I have first-hand
> knowledge and experience
> > with recovery operations post-Katrina and the blame
> lies completely at the
> > mayor's feet.  It's how our National Response
> Plan (NRP) works.  State
> > resources don't get deployed until local resources
> are exhausted.  Federal
> > resources don't get deployed until the State's
> resources are used up.
> >  That's just the way it is.  All of the buzz about
> the lack of rapid Federal
> > response is a bunch of hooey.  Resources were staged
> and ready to go, but
> > local and state officials refused to "trip the
> switch" until it was too
> > late.
> >
> > ...and they re-elected him!
> >
> > It will be interesting to see how Gustav is dealt with
> pre-emptively by
> > local officials this time around.  We've already
> received a "Warning Order",
> > just in case.
> >
> > A bit of advice to those of us on the list who drive: 
> Fill your tanks on
> > Friday because there's sure to be a spike in
> prices come the weekend.
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: Cerebral Palsy List on behalf of ken barber
> > Sent: Wed 8/27/2008 3:30 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >  Subject: Re: New Orleans and Gustav
> >
> >
> >
> > i remember seeing pictures of thousands of school
> busses sitting in flooded
> > water down there. they really could have used those.
> can we say "thank you
> > mayor?"
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 8/27/08, Anthony Arnold
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Anthony Arnold
> <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Subject: Re: New Orleans and Gustav
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 3:26 PM
> > > That's easy for those of us with cars to say,
> I did that
> > > when we had the
> > > flood in 1997 but I have a van with a lift.
> However I
> > > remember my brother
> > > saying why couldn't they have had buses go
> down in
> > > ' 05 to help people get
> > > out, that's what we did in 1997 and we
> didn't even
> > > have 1 death, but we only
> > > had about 5,000 at max without vehicles.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Anthony Arnold
> > > Remote Troubleshooter for PRC
> > > 1-800-262-1984 ext. 494
> > > www.anthonyarnold.net
> > > Proud Member of Speak Share
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Cerebral Palsy List
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> > > ken barber
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 1:49 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: New Orleans and Gustav
> > >
> > > i just read an article that new orleans was
> > > "considering" evactuation  ahead
> > > of Gustav.
> > >
> > > after Katrina they are only considering? if it
> got close,
> > > i'd be out of
> > > there.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> Kendall
> 
> An unreasonable man (but my wife says that's
> redundant!)
> 
> The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the
> unreasonable one
> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
> Therefore, all progress
> depends on the unreasonable man.
> 
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