I agree about the draft because that would stop this insanity. The
refusal you saw in Nam would be nothing compared to the refusal to go
to Iraq. In Nam they did not even draft married people let alone both
parents. Then we might have a real peace movement in this country. I
just hope this teaches the public not to follow our leaders into war so easily.
I am not saying they both should not serve. I am saying we don't need
to be making orphans out of their children.
The Dems will never initiate a draft. I am so scared of what Bush
will do with his final time. He thinks it's ok to roll on Iran.
At 12:13 AM 10/30/2007, you wrote:
>Unfortunately, both men and women signed up to be in the armed forces
>and both have to serve. The military makes no distinction in this case -
>this is the way women's libbers wanted it back in the 1970s and 1980s
>and this is what they got. Don't get me wrong, I'm a feminist myself.
>If you volunteer to serve in the military, you had better be prepared to
>go where the military sends you - that's the reality of it.
>
>Also another thing is going on is that commissioned officers are being
>called back into duty even after their official duties are over - they
>can be called back at the DOD's whim, and they are even calling back
>permanently disabled officers, too, those who would not ordinarily be
>even considered fit for active duty. If you're a commissioned officer,
>there's a clause in your contract that says you can be called back if
>the need is there. You're not totally out of service until you fully
>retire.
>
>Frankly, I think we need a draft - we are in a situation where our armed
>forces are stretched so thin that reserved units are sent back over and
>over and non-com tours of duty keep getting extended further and
>further. But I'm willing to bet this is such a hot potato that Bush is
>trying to defer it as long as possible so the next Administration gets
>to deal with it and its consequences.
>
>Kat
>
>Linda Walker wrote:
> > I just think one parent should stay home it doesn't matter which sex I
> > just think it is barbaric to send both parents to war especially for
> > this type of action.
> >
> > At 06:24 PM 10/29/2007, you wrote:
> >> well linda, we never had the women joining as they do
> >> now. in precious wars usually a woman in the military
> >> was to be a care giver to the wounded, but, with
> >> "equal rights"....
> >>
> >> --- Linda Walker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > uniquely horrible in that it is an entirely
> >> > unnecessary war just my
> >> > opinion and it is more brutal because of the length
> >> > of time people
> >> > are serving and the fact that Bush will send two
> >> > parents in there
> >> > causing incredible worry to the families and
> >> > children. We never did
> >> > things like that before. I guess I just kinda hope
> >> > we've learned
> >> > something since the Spanish inquisition and it's
> >> > interesting that's
> >> > the one you mention since we have Abu Ghraib.
> >> > Everyone responds to trauma differently. My father
> >> > never raised his
> >> > voice or his hand against anyone and he is a war
> >> > hero so I am not of
> >> > course talking about everyone.
> >> > In the child abuse work I do, I see some highly
> >> > resilient people who
> >> > have good lives to people who are just destroyed by
> >> > the events even
> >> > to the point of taking their own life. We will be
> >> > paying for this
> >> > war emotionally and socially for a couple of
> >> > generations. Of course
> >> > not everyone but some returning vets won't be able
> >> > to cope and they
> >> > will act out in violence towards themselves and
> >> > those closest to
> >> > them. It is well known there is a high incidence of
> >> > domestic violence
> >> > inside the services.
> >> > And it bugs me that we primarily report our soldiers
> >> > deaths but
> >> > seldom report the number of displaced Iraquis
> >> > because of our actions.
> >> > Anyhow this is taking away from the terrible
> >> > inhumane way that woman
> >> > was treated. We'll never know if she would have
> >> > lived with prompt tratement.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > At 04:40 PM 10/29/2007, you wrote:
> >> > >Linda, if your logic were to be applied across the
> >> > board, there wouldn't
> >> > >be any vets who could go back to civilian lives
> >> > and get on with them.
> >> > >Remember that we have been in wars since this
> >> > country was founded and
> >> > >there is nothing new about the traumas of war (well
> >> > except for our
> >> > >capacity to quickly kill each other). If you think
> >> > our brutality in
> >> > >Iraq is uniquely horrible, may I refer you to any
> >> > history of the Spanish
> >> > >Inquisition or the Roman Empire? Violence, alas,
> >> > is nothing new.
> >> > >
> >> > >Having said that I do agree with you that we don't
> >> > need to be in Iraq
> >> > >because we need to spend our money where it's
> >> > better put to use, and I
> >> > >think we have done very little good by invading
> >> > Iraq.
> >> > >
> >> > >Kat
>
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