Market forces are also limited when your insurer limits your accessibility
to an in-house network and the amount you can pay due to deductibles and
out-of-pocket maximums. Those who need it the most can't get what need. I
do see problems with the Canadian insurance system but I think I'd prefer it
to what we have now.
Kat
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From: "ehthiers" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 9:11 PM
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Subject: Re: An actual CP related question!
> Pure capitalism doesn't work in the medical system though. Miami has one
> of
> the highest per capita rates of doctors but, also some of the highest
> medical costs. There are only so many customers, you have to spend lots
> of
> money on equipment you can't share with anyone else, and you have to make
> up
> your costs somehow. People need what they need are going to have to
> access
> it. We can't find out the prices to comparison shop because different
> people are charged differently and if you are the government or insurance
> companies, you just ignore what the going rate is and make up your own.
> Here in Florida, people who accept Medicaid haven't had a pay raise in
> over
> 10 years as the government (Florida) will not pay more and you can only
> see
> one kid at a time and adults on regular Medicaid rehab isn't even paid.
> I'm
> so glad I'm out of that system.
>
> Beth t.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Cerebral Palsy List [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of ken barber
>> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 11:21 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: An actual CP related question!
>>
>> in a pure capitalistic system competition is suppose to come
>> in and cause prices to drop. but then when there is
>> governments regs as in the drug industry...
>> you know what "industry" actually dwARfs the drug industry
>> in price increases? also dwarfs all others
>> take a look at tuition in colleges.
>> i do not know any where that there is a pure capitalist system.
>>
>> --- "Michael H. Collis" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> > Well, In a pure capitalistic system. it looks like the poor get
>> > screwed.
>> >
>> > ---- Original message ----
>> > >Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 18:40:19 -0700
>> > >From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
>> > >Subject: Re: An actual CP related question!
>> > >To: [log in to unmask]
>> > >
>> > >well deri in health care there are three things to have.
>> > >
>> > >1. it can be good, 2. it can be cheap 3 it can be fast.
>> > >
>> > >however it can be only 2 of these at a time. if it
>> > is
>> > >good and cheap, then it is not fast. if it is fast
>> > and
>> > >cheap, then it is not good. if it is fast and good then it is not
>> > >cheap. the USA right now has fast
>> > and
>> > >good.
>> > >
>> > >there it is in a nutshell folks. choose what you
>> > want.
>> > >
>> > >hey, beth, you have your hands on health care in florida.
>> is it true
>> > >that some doctors make their practice on treating
>> canadians wintering
>> > >in florida getting treatment before going back north in the summer?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >--- Deri James <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> On Sunday 09 March 2008 03:34:16 ken barber
>> > wrote:
>> > >> > do i dare point out that the canadian health
>> > care
>> > >> that
>> > >> > Meir described is what both democratic
>> > canidates
>> > >> are
>> > >> > wanting.
>> > >>
>> > >> Hi Ken,
>> > >>
>> > >> Do I dare point out that medical care costs, if
>> > it
>> > >> is underfunded the care
>> > >> will not be as good as a well funded system.
>> > >>
>> > >> Personally I do not like private companies making
>> > a
>> > >> profit from ill health and
>> > >> prefer a system where good healthcare is provided through an
>> > >> equitable tax system, but it does cost.
>> > >>
>> > >> Cheers
>> > >>
>> > >> Deri
>> > >>
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