Listmates,

        You know I could share with the list the source of my spirituality,
Alcoholics Anonymous. But, I would probably offend some people. Seriously,
I've
learned a lot, particularly from the 12 Traditions(not the Steps) of AA.
Organized religions could learn something from them. The 12 Steps are taken
right out of the Book of James.

Bobby



>WHILE AS A CHRISTIAN I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF WITCHCRAFT
>sorry, about the caps,
>
>i do not get on your case and say that god would punish your child for that
>or anything else you have done. this is not good christian theology. i am
>afraid that it is the theology of many christians who lets themselves be
>taught rather than study the bible for themself.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Trisha Cummings [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
>> Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 12:55 PM
>> To:   [log in to unmask]
>> Subject:      Re: Intro (and then some)zealots
>>
>> Hi Kyle,
>>
>> >I applaud your post-modernist diatribe, Trisha.  Your position is well
>> >thought-out and expounded.  My point is two-fold:  This is not the forum
>> >for theological apologetics.  It is of, by, and for folks with Cerebral
>> >Palsy.
>>
>>     It was started over someone being I guess harassed for their CP by a
>> bible thumper. I had an incident happen when Amber was a baby and we where
>> just discovering she had CP. I was talking after the service about what
>> was
>> happening when this lovely woman - told me - GOD - did this to my child
>> becasue I am a bad person and none of the people standing around said a
>> thing. Now, I must admit the Christian version of God never had much
>> creditibily with me in the first place, but this offended beyond. If
>> people
>> feel this way and talk to people this way then obviously it would seem to
>> be
>> a CP topic. Amber has had run-ins  - Who in their right mind picks on
>> small
>> child!  Besides CP seems to be an equal oppurtunity condition.
>>
>> >Also, I can't fathom your thesis that antiquity has bearing on the
>> >validity of a faith system.
>>
>>             Christianity is rather a late comer in the faith game. Yet,
>> your
>> believe your God is the the one and only and you must share this with us
>> non-beleivers - is arrogant, autocratic, judgemental  and domineering. No
>> one denies you the right to your beliefs or even the right to talk about
>> them - it the manner in which you do this, that is being objected to. Man
>> has been around for a long time. Somewhere between 30,000 and 35,000 years
>> ago - beliefs came into being. The earliest ones were Goddess based. (In
>> fact Goddess lives on in Christianity in the form Mary). Why would any new
>> comer belief be more valid than older ones. Christianity worked well for
>> the
>> leaders of the empire builders of the day. Christianity is a blending of
>> the
>> Jews and the Pagans right along with Romans.
>>
>>                 Well got run - I'm off to Baltimore and Balticon 33!!
>>
>>                               Brightest Blessings