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ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
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St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List
Date:
Sun, 8 Jun 2003 13:38:02 -0700
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well, kat you can tell by my response to scott, that i
am concerned about loss of basic liberty. this patriot
act scares me. it tramples over civil liberties in the
name of security.
  i think i'd take my chances with the chances of
homicide bombers and stay free.

--- "K. Salkin" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I am so troubled at the loss of our basic liberties
> due to the habeas corpus
> doctrine it's keeping me awake at times.  I think
> this is one of the things
> that will make it harder for Bush to win his next
> election.  We Americans
> don't fully understand what we've lost in the name
> of homeland security.
>
> Kat
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Sands" <[log in to unmask]>
> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.c-palsy
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 3:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Ironies
>
>
> > Whoa.
> >
> > First of all, let's be fair about what Bill
> Clinton did--he lied about an
> > affair.  How many men have done jail time for
> that?  Second, let's be fair
> > about what Hillary Clinton has done--she has run
> campaigns the way
> > politicians have been running them in this country
> for years and years.
> >
> > What George W. Bush has done to the office of
> President and to the
> > Constitution of this country (particularly to the
> doctrine of habeus
> corpus)
> > is far more troubling to me.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 12:34 PM
> > Subject: Re: Ironies
> >
> >
> > > margret thacher was a powerful woman. she did
> not
> > > switch her opinions with every poll or every
> focus
> > > group that met. i might add that she did not get
> her
> > > power from a man she married. she did not run
> > > campaigns with hand picked news personnel that
> would
> > > only ask questions that she wanted ask. mrs
> clinton
> > > has never been in a public forum that she has
> not
> > > control who would be there.
> > >   powerful? not my definition of powerful. hate,
> no
> > > lets usethe right word, despise is the word and
> > > whatthese two did to the office of the president
> and
> > > to the constitution of this country is the
> reason that
> > > i dispise both of them.
> > >   questioned answered.
> > >
> > > --- "K. Salkin" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > > Now com'on guys.  Why do you hate her so much?
> > > > She's a powerful woman but I
> > > > fail to see where she's so evil.  If you're
> thinking
> > > > Whitewater remember
> > > > that her involvement was never proved in that
> case.
> > > > I've seen far more
> > > > evidence of misuse in power by men and no one
> bats
> > > > an eye.
> > > >
> > > > I'm beginning to think that men fear powerful
> women.
> > > > ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Kat
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "ken barber" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > Newsgroups: bit.listserv.c-palsy
> > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 3:07 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Ironies
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > well, mag, i have been watching politics
> since i
> > > > was
> > > > > in middle school. back then i did not
> identify
> > > > with
> > > > > either party. i can say that nobody in my
> time has
> > > > > struck me as being even a close 2nd to
> hillary
> > > > > clinton.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Magenta Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > > > > In a message dated 6/7/03 8:24:16 PM
> Pacific
> > > > > > Daylight Time,
> > > > > > [log in to unmask] writes:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Which 'baby Bush' are you referring to,
> Mag?
> > > > > > There are two out there!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the one in 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. ;-<
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mag
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
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> > > > >
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