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Bobby Greer <[log in to unmask]>
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St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List
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A sound and logically structured argument, even though  I do not agree with
many things you say. One point
was there is corruption in both Republican and Democratic ranks. LBJ used
Haliburton and Brown and Root as much as Bush II.. Where do you think the
nice airfield in Viet Nam came from?

Bobby
 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Linda Walker" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: an interesting article...anti Bush anti Utah anti religion very
offensive consider deleting


>         Whenever one party assumes control for a long time there is
> corruption. I am a life long Democrat and union activist. I do not
> understand poor people who are Republicans but that is an aside. In Hawaii
> the Democrats have had control for a long time and there is corruption. In
> Utah the Republicans have had control for a long time and there is
> corruption. Of the two types of corruption, I far prefer the Democratic.
>         This disaster like all disasters of this magnitude belongs in the
> hands of the President but he is too busy whacking golf balls and deciding
> how best to steal all the worlds oil for his friends. I don't like him or
> his policies.
>         I work on child abuse issues and specifically on the church child
> abuse lawsuits. In Utah the Supreme Court decided that a church, namely
> Mormon, cannot be held responsible for its negligent acts towards
> children.
> I have watched the Supreme Court of Utah make wrong decisions for over
> twenty five years. It is sad. This is also the state that allows,
> virtually
> promotes by their indifference, white slavery and the trafficking of young
> girls in the name of religion, polygamy. Oh yes Utah and the Mormons have
> their public relations arm that claims they are not responsible. That is a
> lie. They started polygamy  and have done nothing to stop it even though
> it
> was a requirement of statehood to do so.
>         It is quite upsetting to hear the Mormon commercials claiming how
> much they love children. They love them so much they move perpetrators
> around the country just like the Catholics and rarely report child abuse.
> These carefully crafted commercials simply appeal to peoples fear of rapid
> change and longing for an idealized past and are gauged to find more tithe
> payers. The Republican theme God is on our side also disgusts me. I hope
> the non voting Americans wake up soon from their fog that voting does not
> matter. It was also part of the Republican agenda to control Congress to
> disenfranchise voters by marketing the idea to the baby boom generation
> that not voting is the best policy since it's only a choice of the lesser
> of two evils. If more peopel voted Bush would have lost and I think he did
> lose anyhow but for the Diebold machines that cpatured the phony vote for
> him. I am very disappointed in every American who does not vote as the
> mandate in this country would certainly change if people started voting
> again. Oh yes and then we have to count them all. Whew! ! End of tirade.
> Back to gardening.
>
> Linda
>
> At 06:54 AM 9/16/2005, you wrote:
>>oh, okay. let's see, what party has been in control of
>>the State of La for 40-60 years? which party has been
>>in control of the city of New Orleans for 40-60 years?
>>so who allowed the situtation to exist even though we
>>have spent more than 6 trillion dollars on the "WAR ON
>>POVERTY."? i think we need and exit stategy. we need a
>>time table to get out of this war. we have lost the
>>war. New Orleans showed this war lost.
>>
>>   the party starts with a "D."
>>
>>--- Mike Collis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> > I don't know if I agree with this wholeheartedly.
>> > Just another post to get
>> > y'all talking...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>-----------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Judge Roberts, Hurricane Katrina and Americans with
>> > Disabilities
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Building a Supreme Court to Excuse Our Nation's
>> > Neglect of the Poor and
>> > Disenfranchised
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > By Jim Ward, Founder and President
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ADA Watch/National Coalition for Disability Rights
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > New Orleans is America's canary in the mineshaft.
>> > Ideologies of
>> > privatization that incapacitate effective government
>> > -permitting the
>> > privileged to save themselves while leaving the poor
>> > clinging to roofs -must
>> > now be challenged. This disaster is a chilling
>> > reminder of what happens when
>> > government fails to protect its citizens, and it is
>> > imperative that
>> > Americans demand accountability.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Terry Lynn Karl Professor of Political Science
>> > Stanford University September
>> > 8, 2005
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > (Washington, DC) We did not see news reports on
>> > Hurricane Katrina showing
>> > mass looting by people with disabilities, did we?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Given the chance, perhaps this would have been so.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Instead, we witnessed people without legs -unable to
>> > reach the rooftops
>> > -floating in the storm waters; Americans in
>> > wheelchairs "rescued" and then
>> > left to fry and die in the scorching sun; people
>> > with epilepsy and diabetes
>> > separated from vital medications; and citizens in
>> > nursing homes left behind
>> > to drown.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > And we saw many, many poor people.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Louisiana has a shameful poverty rate of 24 percent.
>> > There and throughout
>> > the United States, people with disabilities are
>> > among the poorest of the
>> > poor. According to the 2000 Census, people with
>> > severe disabilities comprise
>> > roughly half of all working-age Americans living in
>> > poverty. A staggering
>> > one third of adults with disabilities live in
>> > households with total income
>> > of $15,000 or less.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hurricane Katrina has blown the cover off of
>> > America's crumbling physical
>> > infrastructure and our weakened ability to respond
>> > to the needs of even our
>> > most vulnerable citizens. Those quick to write off
>> > the results of this storm
>> > as a blameless natural disaster fail to grasp how
>> > our Country has been
>> > weakened by the Free Market solutions of economic
>> > Libertarianism. Katrina
>> > has dramatically illustrated the failure of a
>> > "privatized," "outsourced,"
>> > and "downsized" government to protect its citizens
>> > from a storm -let alone
>> > from the poverty and decaying infrastructure that
>> > proceeded it.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Americans were rightly angry to learn of the lack of
>> > experience and
>> > credentials held by Michael Brown, the head of the
>> > Federal Emergency
>> > Management Agency (FEMA). But, rather than the
>> > incompetence of one, we are
>> > witnessing the impact of an ideological scheme to
>> > undo the federal safety
>> > net and roll back basic protections for those most
>> > in need. This was made
>> > all too clear by the words of Brown's predecessor at
>> > FEMA and former
>> > campaign manager for President Bush, Joe Allbaugh,
>> > who while initiating
>> > steps towards the privatization of FEMA, declared it
>> > an "oversized
>> > entitlement program" and said that the "business of
>> > government is not to
>> > provide services."
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > In the aftermath of this tragedy, critics of the
>> > President fail us when they
>> > rail about political cronyism or the length of his
>> > summer vacation.
>> >
>> > During a time of crisis, these arguments seem
>> > partisan, petty and
>> > opportunistic to most Americans. These criticisms
>> > especially distract from
>> > seeing New Orleans as the end result of Mr. Bush's
>> > carefully calculated
>> > plans to gut the Federal government by filling it
>> > with ideologues who
>> > despise its very existence. In this context, the
>> > problems of FEMA, which
>> > tragically and disproportionately are impacting
>> > people with disabilities,
>> > African Americans, and the poor, illustrate just
>> > what has gone wrong with
>> > our government and they neither begin nor end with
>> > Hurricane Katrina.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > People with disabilities are among the many who have
>> > been awaiting the
>> > expression of outrage from our elected leaders, the
>> > Media and our fellow
>> > citizens about the systematic plundering of
>> > Medicaid, Medicare, Social
>> > Security, public housing, public education, and
>> > other vital programs at the
>> > direction of this Administration and Congress all in
>> > the name of doing away
>> > with "Big Government."
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The appointment of individuals who share contempt
>> > for our government if not
>> > of the citizens they serve has been pervasive in
>> > this Administration.
>> >
>> > The result has been the proliferation of Federal
>> > agencies and a Federal
>> > judiciary which operate to grease the skids of Free
>> > Market libertarianism
>> > and to release government from any responsibility to
>> > its own citizens.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > A few examples specifically impacting people with
>> > disabilities include:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > * John Ashcroft, who as Senator took a lead role in
>> > trying to weaken the due
>> > process protections afforded children and youth with
>> > disabilities by the
>> > Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA),
>> > was appointed Attorney
>> > General and led the Justice Department in siding
>> > with big business and
>> > against workers with disabilities.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > * Gerald Reynolds, recess appointed by President
>> > Bush to run the Office of
>> >
>>=== message truncated ===
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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