Eric
Yes, intriguing. I was told the turnbuckles have to do with the sprung  
floor. But!  I will be heading downeast mid-May and can probably go  
look. What do you recommend I look for to try to figure out your  
question as to whether it's a trussed beam floor or?  If they let me,  
I could take pix for you to look at.

And, when I'm there, I'll try to ascertain their resources and desires
re: having a professional engineering look.

The heat-- their issue is zonal and periodic heating for the fall and
spring months. These would occasions for small groups to meet or to  
work. It doesn't make sense to fire up the monster free-standing wood  
stove when it takes hours to heat the place. That would work for a a  
big gathering.

I am thinking about wall radiant heat-- probably electric-- sort of  
like those euro heated towel racks only heftier. Wouldn't some that  
look like and have the mass of an old-fashioned steam/hot H2O radiator  
be nice? Such gadgets (not those dinky oil-filled plug-ins) could be  
non-invasively bracket to walls near the work and
small gathering places.

To be continued.


---Mary

hands-on impresario
Tegel  Design +  Planning
Oregon

On Apr 19, 2009, at 9:20 PM, "Hammarberg, Eric" <[log in to unmask] 
 > wrote:

> Mary,
>
> I am very intrigued by these issues. Our firm is mostly engineers
> (structural and mechanical) and fair number of architects too. We have
> designed sprung floors for damping a dance studio floor. Also, since  
> you
> mention turnbuckles, I want to make sure you were not talking about a
> trussed beam floor. We have worked on both.
>
> We also have mechanical engineers doing a lot of work in more
> sustainable technologies. I was wondering if anyone has considered
> geo-thermal heating? I wonder how radiant heat in the floor would  
> affect
> the sprung floor?
>
> We would be interested in discussing these issues.
>
>
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>
> Maybe this could be the beginning of an ode-- to x and etc. But it's
> not.
>
> It's a few questions with the last one
> being the most interesting.
>
> Background: I was talking with a member of the Machias, Maine Grange
> who's also a member of the Beehive Collective. I have to given them a
> lot of credit for bringing back into service a moribund building and
> doing it right and in a manner that has been respectful of the
> community.
>
> Anyway, she said they were thinking about weatherizing the windows. I
> hope she is now a member of the religion that keeps the old and thinks
> about a good way to make storm windows. That's the first question.
>
> The second has to do with her idea to install radiant heat in the  
> floors
> ( it's a bear to heat in downeast winters-- they usually close it for
> the coldest months). I gave her the lowdown as much as I could re: the
> maintenance requirements for a hit water system in that climate and  
> the
> need for more thermal mass than the wood material provides.
>
> The third and most interesting question has to do with the spring  
> floor.
> It's not quite floating. It's somehow loosenable/tightenable via a
> couple of sets of turnbuckles. I recommended she not crank on them at
> all until they find someone who really knows about such things. I
> suggested there might be an oldtimer around there and that I'd fly  
> this
> by you folks.
>
> I suppose the answers to rise questions are multi-faceted (and  
> probably
> have nothing to do with ducks --- oh. How about "duckworks"
> for that glossary?
>
> I am hoping to get some wisdom from you that I can pass on to the
> Grangers. Maybe there's work there for anybody bullamanka-pinheaded on
> any of these questions. They don't have much money (of course, that's
> what they all say). Anyway -- if interested, I can put you in touch  
> with
> each other. Let's hope they check all these out thoroughly first.
>
> And, please, post what you know about spring floors (this one's old).
> I am curious and am guessing that the knowledge is in this group.
>
> ---Mary
>
> Tegel  Design +  Planning
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