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Leland:

I'd be concerned of cases where foam insulation installed in stud walls 
forces all the vapor migration through the wall, to pass through the 
studs, overloading the studs with moisture causing decay in the studs. 
I've seen two case where it looks like that was happening, though we did 
not have the budget to investigate and prove it.


John
by hammer and hand great works do stand
by pen and thought best words are wrought


John Leeke, American Preservationeer
Historic HomeWorks
26 Higgins St.
Portland, ME  04103
207 773-2306
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>   1. Polyurethane foam insulation
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> Date:    Wed, 26 Apr 2006 06:48:17 EDT
> From:    [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Polyurethane foam insulation
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> In a message dated 4/25/2006 10:25:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
> [log in to unmask] writes:
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> I  agree--closed cell won't breathe so it serves as a moisture barrier.   
> Make sure you know where your dew point will be (where in the wall  condensation 
> will occur) to avoid letting moisture come in contact with wood  or concrete
> 
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> In my former capacity, we always insisted that backer rod for  caulking be 
> closed-cell polyurethane foam, because outgassing from the open-cell  stuff had 
> been found to percolate out through the sealant and ruin it.  Why  isn't there 
> going to be some deleterious effect (on paint?) of open-cell  polyurethane 
> insulation?
>  
> Seems to me there's an inconsistency between Bruce wanting  open-cell 
> polyurethane insulation and me wanting closed-cell backer rod.   Or am I missing 
> something?
>  
> Ralph
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> Date:    Wed, 26 Apr 2006 07:36:49 -0500
> From:    Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: THE PENRHYN SLATE COMPANY
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> News Flash!!!!!!!!  Bush doesn't have a magic wand!
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> What's the country to do?
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