wholeheartedly have to agree w/ ralph @ this one-
best piece of parenting advice we ever got was when mrs noble- 6 kids- came over
one evening and asked mrs drew "what is this child doing out of bed"
all I would add is
1- very important to have a routine- for us the end is "good night sleep tight,
don't let the bed bugs bite" followed by "close your eyes and what do you see...""
I see a boy having a happy day tomorrow""
ditto 1-2-3 bye, bye water to end bath/shower time....
2- especially this time of year have to be iron in re the clock time, as days get
longer going to bed time can stretch out for an hr if you're not careful....

DD

Ralph Walter wrote:

> Pyrate.
>
> Nearly as important as putting Peanut in her carseat is the matter of bedtime.
>
> There can  be no negotating with tyrants, particularly in this matter.  When
> Mommy and Daddy say it's bedtime (and it should be bedtime at the same time
> every night, with the very fewest [or better yet, no] exceptions), it's
> bedtime. In her age bracket, I would say this is 7:30, maybe 8 PM.
>
> She goes into her room, you do whatever 2 minute lights out/taps/deity
> worship ceremonies you do in your household, and her ass is in bed.  That is
> all. Over. These proceedings are closed. No extra stories, no lie down with
> me daddy. And you and Frau Pyrate have the evening to yourselves.
>
> No horseshit about how you (or Mrs. P) had to work late, or were off with the
> froggies for 2 months.  Bedtime is bedtime.
>
> Iron Bedtimer
>
> PS--  Behold, a good doctrine has been given unto you.  Forsake it not.
>
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