Is Plainville near Danielson?
-jc
On Wednesday, October 1, 2003, at 05:06 PM, edison wrote:
> Thank you, Leland!
>
> While face-bedded brownstone has proven to be relatively poor in terms
> of
> durability, I might argue that is still more cost effective, in its
> total
> life-cycle cost, than the typical painted wood house.
>
> I would also argue that properly repaired brownstone with an
> appropriate
> weatherproofing treatment can outperform the original stone in terms of
> durability.
>
> Edison Coatings, Inc.
> M. P. Edison
> President
> 3 Northwest Drive
> Plainville, CT 06062
> Phone: (860) 747-2220 or (800)697-8055
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> ---------- Original Message -----------
> From: Leland Torrence <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:58:30 -0400
> Subject: Re: over easy and then some
>
>> Well, well.... Brownstone again, eh? I would like to point to a
>> 1982 project in New Haven (where else) at the Palladium building on
>> Orange
>> Street. Stone replacement with Portland was not possible as Meahan
>> had
>> not reopened his quarry at this time. Edison Coatings patching and
>> coloring products were used. In fact 16,000 pounds of patching
>> material
>>
>> (System 45, color #701). Molds were made for the decorative
>> detailing including quoins, sills, brackets and cornices. The only
>> failures in the twentyone years since the project are where the
>> substrate failed, and these only show up in areas where the patching
>> product was applied as a thin parge (under 1/4 inch). The architect
>> at the time was David Yeager and this was a bold move at the time.
>> Needless to say, it is one of the finest façade restorations of its
>> kind I have seen to date. I have worked extensively with other
>> patching products, and for Portland Brownstone I would say Mike's
>> product is by far the best. Leland
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kitty tortillas!
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John
>> Callan
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 10:10 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: over easy
>>
>> I'd like to see the examples of success in patching Brownstone. And
>> I suppose I'd like to understand the tipping point in terms of cost-
> benefit.
>>
>> At some point all exterior materials are sacrificial. We would like
>> to think of stone as lasting for centuries, but perhaps Brownstone
>> is not such a stone. Perhaps it is on a cycle similar to wood
>> siding. Is that so bad?
>>
>> However, you should share your examples with the nice folks working
>> on the Morse-Libby House.
>>
>> -jc
>>
>> ps. I am reminded of an architect who suggested that we do a building
>> what he suggested folks in Japan do...rebuild it every century or so.
>> Its a slippery slope I'm perched on.
>>
>> -still jc
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 1, 2003, at 08:34 AM, edison wrote:
>>
>>> Agree with the patching brownstone by stucco method comment, disagree
>>> that patching in general is ineffective. There are brownstone
>>> patching
>>> projects
>>> with up to two decades of service that speak to the viability of this
>>> approach.
>>>
>>> Edison Coatings, Inc.
>>> M. P. Edison
>>> President
>>> 3 Northwest Drive
>>> Plainville, CT 06062
>>> Phone: (860) 747-2220 or (800)697-8055
>>> Fax: (860)747-2280 or (800) 697-8044
>>> Internet: www.edisoncoatings.com
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>>> ---------- Original Message -----------
>>> From: [log in to unmask]
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Sent: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:25:57 EDT
>>> Subject: Re: over easy
>>>
>>>> Brownstone is a (generally) dark red/brown sandstone.
>>>
>>>> Patching it (with stucco)
>>>> isn't worth a damn, and replacing it is virtually unaffordable, even
>>>> if you could find a good match for color and texture. So basically,
>>>> you're screwed.
>>>>
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>> 784 Deerwood Circle
>> Lino Lakes, Minnesota 55014-5433
>> The United States of America
>>
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