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yes it is. Does wonders for both but not so great for steel. Any technical
advise in mortar?

Thanks,

Eric Hammarberg
Director of Preservation
Associate
LZA Technology
641 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY 10011-2014
Telephone: 917.661.8160 (Direct)
Mobile: 917.439.3537
Fax: 917.661.8161 (Direct)
email:  [log in to unmask]


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RE: Mortar accelerators: Isn't calcium chloride in road salt? Also called
for in serious, older pickle recipes for brining cucumbers?

Jean Van Meter
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Topics of the day:

  1. Cow Story (3)
  2. My dairy story... (3)
  3. [forum-l] Re: paint removal methodology
  4. Press Release; Stokowski is NESM Director (3)
  5. Mortar Set Accelerator (4)

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Date:    Tue, 14 Jan 2003 15:57:50 EST
From:    Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Cow Story

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Huh?

>ROFLMAO!

Translation: Rolling On the Floor Laughing My Ass Off!

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<BR>
&gt;ROFLMAO!</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BR>
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Date:    Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:07:49 EST
From:    Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: My dairy story...

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The Millbrook Hunt

Sharpshooter: So, out of curiousity, what do they hunt in Millbrook, aging
wannabe Learys & Dam Rasses? ][<en

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Date:    Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:08:09 EST
From:    Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [forum-l] Re: paint removal methodology

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Isn't this Pyrate?

Yep! Just another submerged histo presto pioneer.

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Yep! Just another submerged histo presto pioneer.<BR>
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Date:    Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:20:36 EST
From:    Met History <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: My dairy story...

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In a message dated 1/14/03 4:08:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask]
writes:

> So, out of curiousity, what do they hunt in Millbrook, aging wannabe
Learys &
>

Foxes, the 4 footed kind.  Also eligible millionaire spouses.  I saw a lot
of
eligible spouses, but only one fox.  It was 6:15 AM on a cool July morning.
He/she was trip-trip-tripping along at the edge of our lawn (in a rental
house we had) then stopped, I think hearing me and my 2 year old son in the
house, looked around and stared for the longest time.  Then I gave one
small
tap on the window, and he was off.         Best,  Christopher

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times
New Roman" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/14/03 4:08:19 PM Eastern Standard
Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
<BR></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial"
LANG="0">
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid;
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">So, out of
curiousity, what do they hunt in Millbrook, aging wannabe Learys &amp; Dam
Rasses?</BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New
Roman" LANG="0">
<BR>Foxes, the 4 footed kind. &nbsp;Also eligible millionaire spouses.
&nbsp;I saw a lot of eligible spouses, but only one fox. &nbsp;It was 6:15
AM on a cool July morning. &nbsp;He/she was trip-trip-tripping along at the
edge of our lawn (in a rental house we had) then stopped, I think hearing me
and my 2 year old son in the house, looked around and stared for the longest
time. &nbsp;Then I gave one &nbsp;small tap on the window, and he was off.
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Best, &nbsp;Christopher
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Date:    Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:49:24 EST
From:    "S. Stokowski" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: My dairy story...

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Pinheads:

For those who really want to know, this is what Millbrook is all about.
<A
HREF="http://riddleme.com/html/cow.html">http://riddleme.com/html/cow.html</
A>

Steve Stokowski
Stone Products Consultants
Building Products Microscopy
10 Clark St., Ste. A
Ashland, Mass. 01721-2145
508-881-6364 (ph. & fax)
http://members.aol.com/crushstone/petro.htm

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic
Sans MS" LANG="0">Pinheads:<BR>
<BR>
For those who really want to know, this is what Millbrook is all about.<BR>
<A
HREF="http://riddleme.com/html/cow.html">http://riddleme.com/html/cow.html</
A><BR>
<BR>
Steve Stokowski<BR>
Stone Products Consultants<BR>
Building Products Microscopy<BR>
10 Clark St., Ste. A<BR>
Ashland, Mass. 01721-2145</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000"
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial"
LANG="0"><BR>
</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2
FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0">508-881-6364 (ph. &amp;
fax)<BR>
http://members.aol.com/crushstone/petro.htm</FONT></HTML>

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Date:    Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:52:33 EST
From:    "S. Stokowski" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Press Release; Stokowski is NESM Director

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Press Release

Stone Products Consultants' Steve Stokowski Elected to Board of Directors of
New England Society for Microscopy

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: (January 15, 2003)
Ashland, Massachusetts

Steve Stokowski, President of Stone Products Consultants in Ashland,
Massachusetts, has been elected Materials Director of the New England
Society
for Microscopy (NESM). The New England Society for Microscopy (NESM), a
local
affiliate of the Microscopy Society of America (MSA), is a professional
organization dedicated to the promotion and advancement of the science and
practice of all microscopical imaging, analysis, and diffraction techniques.
Stokowski, who will serve a three-year term for the New England
organization,
said "NESM's biggest challenge is to bring all users of microscopes into the
current NESM fold of biologists, medical researchers, and material
scientists. We must encourage conservators, archeologists, and geologists to
join and contribute to NESM so that all will benefit from the technology and
techniques developed within each professional discipline," said the 27-year
industry veteran.
Stokowski began his career in the basic materials industry shortly after
graduating from George Washington University in Washington, DC. He worked at
Martin Marietta Labs (Baltimore, MD), Genstar Stone Products Company (White
Marsh, MD), and Vulcan Materials Company (Birmingham, AL), before starting
Stone Products Consultants in 1985.
About Stone Products Consultants
Stone Products Consultants specializes in the in the technology of products
produced from geologic materials.  They provide petrographic (microscopic)
examinations of concrete, building stone, brick, cast stone, mortar, tile,
roofing slate, etc.  They identify the reasons for deterioration,
reverse-engineer building materials, and analyze rocks and minerals from
existing or new sources to identify new product opportunities or potential
problems.

SPC's facilities are located at 10 Clark St., Ste. A., Ashland, Mass.,
01721.
Telephone: (508) 881-6364. Fax: (508) 881-6364. Web site:
http://www.members.aol.com/crushstone/petro.htm

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic
Sans MS" LANG="0">Press Release<BR>
<BR>
Stone Products Consultants' Steve Stokowski Elected to Board of Directors of
New England Society for Microscopy <BR>
<BR>
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: (January 15, 2003)<BR>
Ashland, Massachusetts<BR>
<BR>
Steve Stokowski, President of Stone Products Consultants in Ashland,
Massachusetts, has been elected Materials Director of the New England
Society for Microscopy (NESM). The New England Society for Microscopy
(NESM), a local affiliate of the Microscopy Society of America (MSA), is a
professional organization dedicated to the promotion and advancement of the
science and practice of all microscopical imaging, analysis, and diffraction
techniques.<BR>
Stokowski, who will serve a three-year term for the New England
organization, said "NESM's biggest challenge is to bring all users of
microscopes into the current NESM fold of biologists, medical researchers,
and material scientists. We must encourage conservators, archeologists, and
geologists to join and contribute to NESM so that all will benefit from the
technology and techniques developed within each professional discipline,"
said the 27-year industry veteran.&nbsp; <BR>
Stokowski began his career in the basic materials industry shortly after
graduating from George Washington University in Washington, DC. He worked at
Martin Marietta Labs (Baltimore, MD), Genstar Stone Products Company (White
Marsh, MD), and Vulcan Materials Company (Birmingham, AL), before starting
Stone Products Consultants in 1985. <BR>
About Stone Products Consultants <BR>
Stone Products Consultants specializes in the in the technology of products
produced from geologic materials.&nbsp; They provide petrographic
(microscopic) examinations of concrete, building stone, brick, cast stone,
mortar, tile, roofing slate, etc.&nbsp; They identify the reasons for
deterioration, reverse-engineer building materials, and analyze rocks and
minerals from existing or new sources to identify new product opportunities
or potential problems.<BR>
<BR>
SPC's facilities are located at 10 Clark St., Ste. A., Ashland, Mass.,
01721. Telephone: (508) 881-6364. Fax: (508) 881-6364. Web site:
http://www.members.aol.com/crushstone/petro.htm <BR>
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Date:    Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:56:10 -0500
From:    "Mark W. James" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Cow Story

DILLIGAF

>Huh?
>
>>ROFLMAO!
>
>Translation: Rolling On the Floor Laughing My Ass Off!
>

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Date:    Tue, 14 Jan 2003 17:02:47 -0500
From:    "Hammarberg, Eric" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Mortar Set Accelerator

We are having a real winter here in NYC this year and I have a few projects
that contractors and owners want me to allow the use of mortar set
accelerators. They think this will allow them to work unprotected in any
temperature. I have always rejected accelerators due to problems with bond,
efflorescence, etc. and that we have successful, yet expensive,
recommendations in our specs including heating masonry materials,
windbreaks, blankets, etc. I was hoping some of you more "chemically
inclined" BPers could help me explain more precisely why the following are
bad:

*       Euclid, Euco Winter Admix. Active ingredient appears to be Calcium
Chloride.

*       Grace, Morset. Active ingredients appear to be Calcium Nitrate,
Calcium Nitrite, and N-Nitrosodiethanolamine.

Please be as detailed as possible.

Thanks,

Eric Hammarberg
Director of Preservation
Associate
LZA Technology
641 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY 10011-2014
Telephone: 917.661.8160 (Direct)
Mobile: 917.439.3537
Fax: 917.661.8161 (Direct)
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Date:    Tue, 14 Jan 2003 17:05:36 -0600
From:    John Callan <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Mortar Set Accelerator

Not that this is the kind of comment you were looking for, but I think
there is a skill and experience element to working in winter conditions
too.  Although the conditions are much harsher here than any I saw in
Pennsylvania, I also see far fewer cold weather problems with building
materials and workers working long after my projects in PA would have
shut down for winter.  So, if you are going to specify
accelerators...perhaps you should also specify that they be in the
hands of people who have used them....a lot.  Minnesotans, North
Dakotans and Canadians would all be good candidates.

-jc

On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, at 04:02  PM, Hammarberg, Eric wrote:

> We are having a real winter here in NYC this year and I have a few
> projects
> that contractors and owners want me to allow the use of mortar set
> accelerators. They think this will allow them to work unprotected in
> any
> temperature. I have always rejected accelerators due to problems with
> bond,
> efflorescence, etc. and that we have successful, yet expensive,
> recommendations in our specs including heating masonry materials,
> windbreaks, blankets, etc. I was hoping some of you more "chemically
> inclined" BPers could help me explain more precisely why the following
> are
> bad:
>
> *       Euclid, Euco Winter Admix. Active ingredient appears to be
> Calcium
> Chloride.
>
> *       Grace, Morset. Active ingredients appear to be Calcium Nitrate,
> Calcium Nitrite, and N-Nitrosodiethanolamine.
>
> Please be as detailed as possible.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Eric Hammarberg
> Director of Preservation
> Associate
> LZA Technology
> 641 Avenue of the Americas
> New York, NY 10011-2014
> Telephone: 917.661.8160 (Direct)
> Mobile: 917.439.3537
> Fax: 917.661.8161 (Direct)
> email:  [log in to unmask]
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Date:    Tue, 14 Jan 2003 17:22:22 -0800
From:    Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Press Release; Stokowski is NESM Director

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Steve,
Great ad.   How about some more information about MSA.   I use =
microscopes a lot in the museum exhibits I design, and wonder if you =
have any museum folk in the fold.

Cuyler Page
(cp in bc)
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Date:    Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:49:33 EST
From:    Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Press Release; Stokowski is NESM Director

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Hot damn, Steve!

I always dreamed that someday I'd know a member of the NESM Board.  What is
left to live for?

Sign me,

Ralph

Pres., Dull Men's Club

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Hot damn, Steve!<BR>
<BR>
I always dreamed that someday I'd know a member of the NESM Board.&nbsp;
What is left to live for?&nbsp; <BR>
<BR>
Sign me,<BR>
<BR>
Ralph<BR>
<BR>
Pres., Dull Men's Club</FONT></HTML>

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Date:    Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:02:59 EST
From:    Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Mortar Set Accelerator

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Eric,

As those of us with offices on the refined and dignified East Side say,
fuck
'em.

This asshole (excuse me, I mean distinguished) Contractor chose to bid on
your project with specs that said (didn't they?) that you would not permit
the use of accellerators; he didn't take any exception to the specs that
told
him that he had to provide blankets, temporary heat and and GOd knows what
else to protect the work; and (some other shit I can't think of right now).
Either he does it the way you spec'd and he agreed to perform the work, or
he
can go fuck himself.

If, God forbid, the Owner is leaning on you to go along with this,  you
might
wish to offer the Contr the opportunity to extend his warranty (by say, 5 or
10 years), and to include a provision that all future efflorescence (and
other defect that you can think of that might result from using this crap)
will be removed at no additional cost to the owner.  Offer to let the Contr
pay for lab tests on field-installed samples to prove to you and the owner
that everything  is hunky dory.

That should shut them up.

Ralph

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Eric,<BR>
<BR>
As those of us with offices on the refined and dignified East Side
say,&nbsp; fuck 'em. <BR>
<BR>
This asshole (excuse me, I mean distinguished) Contractor chose to bid on
your project with specs that said (didn't they?) that you would not permit
the use of accellerators; he didn't take any exception to the specs that
told him that he had to provide blankets, temporary heat and and GOd knows
what else to protect the work; and (some other shit I can't think of right
now).&nbsp; Either he does it the way you spec'd and he agreed to perform
the work, or he can go fuck himself.&nbsp; <BR>
<BR>
If, God forbid, the Owner is leaning on you to go along with this,&nbsp; you
might wish to offer the Contr the opportunity to extend his warranty (by
say, 5 or 10 years), and to include a provision that all future
efflorescence (and other defect that you can think of that might result from
using this crap) will be removed at no additional cost to the owner.&nbsp;
Offer to let the Contr pay for lab tests on field-installed samples to prove
to you and the owner that everything&nbsp; is hunky dory. <BR>
<BR>
That should shut them up.<BR>
<BR>
Ralph</FONT></HTML>

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Date:    Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:58:19 -0800
From:    Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Cow Story

You want a REAL cow story, I'll tell you a real cow story.  Last summer my
family, husband, son and I, moved in with my Dad.  He's an 84 YO widower in
good health living in the same house he and his father and grandfather
lived in.  It was built in 1870 by my ggrandfather and gggrandfather.  When
I was a kid we farmed but the barn burned in 1957 or 8 so there have been
no cattle here since but once a farmer always a farmer.  Since that time we
have gotten our milk from the farm next door.  There has never been any
money involved, when he was able Dad always helped the farmer with haying,
etc and we get milk there.  I was not about to ask my 14 YO son to start
drinking milk with real cream on top that you have to shake up so I still
buy milk at the store but Dad still gets milk next door for his cereal and
I use it in cooking.

Dad has Alzheimer's or some dementia so is very forgetful.  Several time a
night he goes to the refrigerator to see if he needs milk--when it is gone
the jug gets washed and taken to the milk house to be filled at the next
milking.  In good weather Dad goes after the milk but now that it is cold,
slippery and dark I don't like him to go out walking at night, especially
since he has to cross a busy road to get to the farm.  I have been going to
get the milk.  When I see the milkhouse light on I know they are milking
and go quickly before Dad feels he has to go.  So I get to go in the barn
and see the cow being milked then go to the milkhouse and see the milk
being poured into my jug.  It is great to have a personal friendship with
the cow that produces my milk.  That's my cow story for now.  Next summer
I'll tell you about the cows that spend the summer vacationing in our
pasture.  Ruth
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Date:    Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:08:41 -0800
From:    Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Mortar Set Accelerator

Hi Eric,  Chemically inclined I ain't--passed chemistry by taking the
advice of older girls who advised to wear tight sweaters, short skirts and
sit in the front row and offer to stay after class and wash beakers or
whatever those glass things are called.  Having given that caveat, the
farmers in these parts don't like cement that has calcium chloride in it.
They say it is not as strong, develops cracks, and doesn't last as long,
giving them more problems.  They just wait til spring.  Ruth


At 5:02 PM -0500 1/14/03, Hammarberg, Eric wrote:
>We are having a real winter here in NYC this year and I have a few projects
>that contractors and owners want me to allow the use of mortar set
>accelerators. They think this will allow them to work unprotected in any
>temperature. I have always rejected accelerators due to problems with bond,
>efflorescence, etc. and that we have successful, yet expensive,
>recommendations in our specs including heating masonry materials,
>windbreaks, blankets, etc. I was hoping some of you more "chemically
>inclined" BPers could help me explain more precisely why the following are
>bad:
>
>*       Euclid, Euco Winter Admix. Active ingredient appears to be Calcium
>Chloride.
>
>*       Grace, Morset. Active ingredients appear to be Calcium Nitrate,
>Calcium Nitrite, and N-Nitrosodiethanolamine.
>
>Please be as detailed as possible.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Eric Hammarberg
>Director of Preservation
>Associate
>LZA Technology
>641 Avenue of the Americas
>New York, NY 10011-2014
>Telephone: 917.661.8160 (Direct)
>Mobile: 917.439.3537
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