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The CAP program is a good one. I do two or three CAP assessments each 
year. I just got back from one on Monhegan Island, 10 miles off the 
downeast coast of Maine, assessing conditions at the granite lighthouse, 
and the wood-framed cottage and art studio of Rockwell Kent. He built 
them himself in 1906-1910, with help from a couple of carpenter friends. 
Saw photos of him on the roof laying up the chimney, and planing boards 
at the bench. The woodshavings were still piled up under the 
cottage--almost like shaking hands with the man himself.


John
by hammer and hand great works do stand
by pen and thought best words are wrought


John Leeke, American Preservationeer
Historic HomeWorks
26 Higgins St.
Portland, ME  04103
207 773-2306
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www.HistoricHomeWorks.com



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>   1. leland is worried that he's not getting all his posts so...
>   2. Apt Pureto Rico (2)
>   3. Vines on brick (3)
>   4. my question is more legitimate than your question (staining stone)
>   5. Conservation Assessment Program (CAP) info
>   6. Gustave Steinback
>   7. Delete this if you could care less about a renowned outhouse architect...
>   8. she forgot to say what colors they were.... (2)
>   9. hey, isn't that blimp hangar at Lakehurst available?
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> Date:    Wed, 27 Sep 2006 07:47:17 -0400
> From:    Leland Torrence <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: leland is worried that he's not getting all his posts so...
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> Whoa-oh-ohhh..  Yep.  I am getting them now.  Such a quiet lot.. Thanks for
> the help, now I have to get an appointment with Evelyn and Dick Wood.  As
> for home inspectors, some are great and some not so great, but in CT we do
> have many that specialize in historic homes.  What they will tell you during
> the inspection (take notes) is worth more than the report.  However, given
> your project and location, I can't believe you can't find a builder that
> knows his stuff and probably give you an hour or two or great advice.  Tell
> him you want to pay him for his services and in Putney in might cost you $60
> but probably nothing.  And by the way, it is very different in Vermont.  My
> sister, who lives in Warren, lives the life of a queen on an income that
> wouldn't pay my property tax and insurances.  She goes to Europe every year
> on what I pay for property tax on my vehicles! 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Leland
> 
>  
> 
> Leland R. S. Torrence
> 
> Leland Torrence Enterprises and the Guild
> 
> 17 Vernon Court, Woodbridge, CT  06525
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> From: The listserv that Ruth calls "Pluto's spider-hole."
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> ...this is a test, Leland.  Please reply to the list if you get it.  
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> If you just don't get it, then you are probably just like other men.
> 
>  
> 
> Christopher 
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> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
> style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>Whoa-oh-ohhh&#8230;.&nbsp; Yep.&nbsp; I am
> getting them now.&nbsp; Such a quiet lot&#8230;. Thanks for the help, now I
> have to get an appointment with Evelyn and Dick Wood.&nbsp; As for home
> inspectors, some are great and some not so great, but in CT we do have many
> that specialize in historic homes.&nbsp; What they will tell you during the
> inspection (take notes) is worth more than the report.&nbsp; However, given
> your project and location, I can&#8217;t believe you can&#8217;t find a builder
> that knows his stuff and probably give you an hour or two or great
> advice.&nbsp; Tell him you want to pay him for his services and in Putney in
> might cost you $60 but probably nothing.&nbsp; And by the way, it is very
> different in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Vermont</st1:place></st1:State>.&nbsp;
> My sister, who lives in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Warren</st1:City></st1:place>,
> lives the life of a queen on an income that wouldn&#8217;t pay my property tax
> and insurances.&nbsp; She goes to <st1:place w:st="on">Europe</st1:place> every
> year on what I pay for property tax on my vehicles! <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
> style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
> style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>Leland<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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> <p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=1 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
> style='font-size:7.5pt;color:blue'>Leland R. S. Torrence</span></font><font
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> <p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=1 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
> style='font-size:7.5pt;color:blue'>Leland Torrence Enterprises and the Guild</span></font><font
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> <p class=MsoAutoSig><st1:address w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on"><font size=1
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>   Vernon Court</span></font></st1:Street><font size=1 color=blue><span
>  style='font-size:7.5pt;color:blue'>, <st1:City w:st="on">Woodbri<st1:PersonName
>   w:st="on">dg</st1:PersonName>e</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">CT</st1:State>&nbsp;
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> <p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=1 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
> style='font-size:7.5pt;color:blue'>Office:&nbsp; 203-397-8505</span></font><font
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> <p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=1 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
> style='font-size:7.5pt;color:blue'>E-mail:&nbsp; [log in to unmask]</span></font><font
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> <p class=MsoPlainText><font size=1 color=blue face="Courier New"><span
> style='font-size:7.5pt;color:blue'>www.LelandTorrenceEnterprises.com</span></font><font
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> <p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
> face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> The listserv
> that Ruth calls &quot;Pluto's spider-hole.&quot;
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] <b><span style='font-weight:
> bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>[log in to unmask]<br>
> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, September 24, 2006
> 5:25 PM<br>
> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
> [log in to unmask]<br>
> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [BP] leland is worried
> that he's not getting all his posts so...</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
> 
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> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:Arial'>...this is a test, Leland.&nbsp; Please reply to the list if
> you get it.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:Arial'>If you just don't get it, then you are probably just like
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> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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> ------------------------------
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> Date:    Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:55:27 -0200
> From:    Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Apt Pureto Rico
> 
> [log in to unmask] wrote:
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> 
>>Ok ok     How much will 3 rooms and a keg of beer  ? (2 male one 
>>female ) cost next to the pool in APT  Puerto Rico ?
> 
> 
> Dont' forget we all got to bring ear plugs for the famous Pyrate snores.
> 
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> Date:    Wed, 27 Sep 2006 08:43:38 -0400
> From:    [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Apt Pureto Rico
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> Dont' forget we all got to bring ear plugs for the famous Pyrate snores. 
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>  
> Sounds like potential sleep apnea to me. Watch it, Py.  Been there, do that. 
>  
> Ralph
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> Date:    Wed, 27 Sep 2006 12:09:18 -0400
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> Subject: Vines on brick
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> Legitimate question time again.
>  
> I am reviewing a report from an architect having some familiarity with old buildings, in which the growth of vines on an 1890 brick building is attributed to high lime content of the mortar.
> It has always been my understanding that such growth stems (so to speak) from, and reflects, the presence of high amounts of water in the walls.
>  
> Please advise.
>  
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> <div>Legitimate question time again.</div>
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> <div>I am reviewing&nbsp;a report from an architect having some familiarity with old buildings, in which&nbsp;the growth of vines on an 1890 brick building is attributed to&nbsp;high lime content of the mortar.</div>
> 
> 
> <div>It has always been my understanding that such growth stems (so to speak) from, and reflects,&nbsp;the presence of high amounts of water in the walls.</div>
> 
> 
> <div>&nbsp;</div>
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> <div>Please advise.</div>
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> Date:    Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:14:54 -0400
> From:    Leland Torrence <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Vines on brick
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> Ralphy-boy,
> 
> I never saw a specie of vine that couldn't grow if there was light and
> water, although the English Ivy is known to thrive on limey surfaces.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Leland
> 
>  
> 
> Leland R. S. Torrence
> 
> Leland Torrence Enterprises and the Guild
> 
> 17 Vernon Court, Woodbridge, CT  06525
> 
> Office:  203-397-8505
> 
> Fax:  203-389-7516
> 
> Pager:  860-340-2174
> 
> Mobile:  203-981-4004
> 
> E-mail:  [log in to unmask]
> 
> www.LelandTorrenceEnterprises.com
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: The listserv that Ruth calls "Pluto's spider-hole."
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 12:09 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [BP] Vines on brick
> 
>  
> 
> Legitimate question time again.
> 
>  
> 
> I am reviewing a report from an architect having some familiarity with old
> buildings, in which the growth of vines on an 1890 brick building is
> attributed to high lime content of the mortar.
> 
> It has always been my understanding that such growth stems (so to speak)
> from, and reflects, the presence of high amounts of water in the walls.
> 
>  
> 
> Please advise.
> 
>  
> 
> Ralph
> 
>   _____  
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> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
> style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>I never saw a specie of vine that couldn&#8217;t
> grow if there was light and water, although the English Ivy is known to thrive
> on limey surfaces.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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> <p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
> face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> The listserv
> that Ruth calls &quot;Pluto's spider-hole.&quot;
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] <b><span style='font-weight:
> bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>[log in to unmask]<br>
> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, September 27,
> 2006 12:09 PM<br>
> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
> [log in to unmask]<br>
> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [BP] Vines on brick</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
> 
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> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
> 12.0pt'>Legitimate question time again.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
> 12.0pt'>I am reviewing&nbsp;a report from an architect having some familiarity
> with old buildings, in which&nbsp;the growth of vines on an 1890 brick building
> is attributed to&nbsp;high lime content of the mortar.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> </div>
> 
> <div>
> 
> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
> 12.0pt'>It has always been my understanding that such growth stems (so to
> speak) from, and reflects,&nbsp;the presence of high amounts of water in the
> walls.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> </div>
> 
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> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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> </div>
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> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
> 12.0pt'>Please advise.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date:    Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:26:11 EDT
> From:    [log in to unmask]
> Subject: my question is more legitimate than your question (staining stone)
> 
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> In 1904 the magazine House & Garden reviewed the new triple arch portal of 
> St. Barthlomew's Church (relocated to the present church at 50th and Park in 
> 1918).  
> 
> After listing (blue/grey) Cippolino marble, (red) Numidian marble, white 
> marble and Alps greenstone, the account says that "nearly all of the stone has 
> been stained in some degree, to bring the colors into closer relationship".
> 
> I have never heard of staining stone or, at least, staining already highly 
> colored stone.
> 
> Christopher 
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> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">In 1904 the magazine House &amp; Garden=20=
> reviewed the new triple arch portal of St. Barthlomew's Church (relocated to=
>  the present church at 50th and Park in 1918).&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">After listing (blue/grey) Cippolino marb=
> le, (red) Numidian marble, white marble&nbsp;and Alps greenstone, the accoun=
> t says that "</FONT><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">nearly all of the stone h=
> as been stained in some degree, to bring the colors into closer relationship=
> ".</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">I have never heard of staining stone or,=
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> ------------------------------
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> Date:    Wed, 27 Sep 2006 15:56:14 -0200
> From:    Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Vines on brick
> 
> Vines do not live by lime alone.
> 
> ][<en
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> Date:    Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:23:07 -0400
> From:    deb <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Conservation Assessment Program (CAP) info
> 
> Hey all, I got this notice via snail mail today and thought it might be of interest:
> 
> Helping Museums Care for Collections
> 
> The Heritage Health Index found that 75% of small museums and historical 
> societies need a condition assessment of their collections. Are you one of them?
> 
> If so, the Conservation Assessment Program, CAP, can help!
> 
> CAP provides general assessments for small to mid-size museums, zoos, and 
> botanical gardens and is supported through a cooperative agreeement with the 
> Instutute of Museum and Library Services.
> 
> The 2007 CAP applications will be available Friday, Oct 6, 2006. To request an 
> application, call 202.233.0800 or email [log in to unmask] . The 
> application will also be available for download from 
> www.heritagepreservation.org/cap/ .
> 
> 
> ~deb
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> Date:    Wed, 27 Sep 2006 18:20:08 -0500
> From:    "Martin C. Tangora" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Gustave Steinback
> 
> There is a redevelopment threat to the Quigley Seminary here in Chicago,
> on Rush Street between Delaware and Pearson.  This is a religious (R.C.) complex
> that includes a chapel which is evidently inspired by Sainte-Chapelle in Paris.
> The architect of record is Zachary Taylor Davis of Chicago
> (best known for the late Comiskey Park and also Wrigley Field)
> but there is also involvement of Gustave (E.) Steinback of New York.
> 
> I first tried Google which had two useful hits on Steinback,
> both referring to him as a "renowned church architect"
> and both pertaining to Queen of All Saints in Brooklyn.
> Looking at QoAS on the Web one cannot miss the resemblance
> to Quigley; and Quigley was begun after All Saints was finished.
> 
> Pushing the Web search further, I only found one-and-a-half
> other churches by Steinback: Blessed Sacrament on W 71st St,
> and the "lower church" of the Church of the Annunciation
> in Crestwood (wherever that is).  This is not a very good showing
> for a "renowned church architect."  
> 
> Can one of you New-York-based experts help me find
> more information about this architect, biographical and/or
> list of buildings?  I have access to good libraries here in Chicago
> but the Web hasn't been much help at all.
> 
> p.s. not to be confused with J. G. Steinbach (final H)
> who with or without his partner Worthmann designed
> dozens of churches and other buildings in Chicago.
> 
> Thanks for any help you can give (on list or off).
> Martin C. Tangora	
> University of Illinois at Chicago
> [log in to unmask]
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> Date:    Wed, 27 Sep 2006 19:36:05 EDT
> From:    [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Delete this if you could care less about a renowned outhouse architect...
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> In a message dated 9/27/2006 7:21:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
> [log in to unmask] writes:
> Can one of you New-York-based experts help me find more information about 
> this architect, biographical and/or list of buildings?  
>>From the AIA Guide:
> 
> Originally College of the Immaculate Conception, Washington Ave. NE cor. 
> Atlantic Ave. 1916. Gustave Steinback. A neo-neo-Gothic school building of great 
> charm and elegance in brick and limestone.
> 
>>From a database of NYC (Manhattan) New Building permits (from 1900-1986) 
> posted on the web by some gasbag with a wife who has a house with constant porch 
> screen problems)(the year referenced is the year filed - almost all, but not 
> all, permits are pursued to conclusion; the dollar figure is the cost of 
> construction):
> 
> OFFICE FOR METROPOLITAN HISTORY :: MANHATTAN NB DATABASE SEARCH RESULTS, 
> SORTED BY YEAR
> Citation format: Office for Metropolitan History, "Manhattan NB Database 
> 1900-1986," (date of access), http://www.MetroHistory.com
> NEW SEARCH
> SEARCH PARAMETERS: ARCHITECT: steinba, 
> 9 RECORDS FOUND, DISPLAYING (1 TO 9)
> 
> 
> KEY: (o) = OWNER, (a) = ARCHITECT
> YEARDOB NB#COSTADDRESS, OWNER, ARCHITECTDESCRIPTION, COMMENTS
> 
> 1907745$1,000.00Mulberry st, No 82
> (o) Mary McGowan Murray (o) 301 W 104th st
> (a) Reiley & Steinback (a) 481 5th [Fifth] av1-sty brk and stone outhouse, 
> 16.4x 10.4
> 
> 
> 1907746$1,000.00Mulberry st, No 87
> (o) Mary McGowan Murray (o) 301 W 104th st
> (a) Reiley & Steinback (a) 481 5th [Fifth] av1-sty brk and stone outhouse, 
> 18.10x 10.4
> 
> 
> 1908490$7,000.00Broadway, n e cor 61st st
> (o) Jeremiah J Campion (o) 20 E 10th st
> (a) Reiley & Steinback (a) 481 5th [Fifth] av1-sty brk and concrete stores, 
> 116.1x 28 and 76
> 
> 
> 1909749$1,000.00MULBERRY ST, No. 87
> (o) Mary McGowan Murray (o) 321 West 77th st
> (a) Reiley & Steinback (a) 481 5th [Fifth] av1-sty brick outhouse, 18x 10.4
> 
> 
> 1910218$5,000.00MADISON AV, n w cor 90th st
> (o) Ida, Kate & Frances Campion (o) 28 East 10th st
> (a) Reiley & Steinback (a) 481 5th [Fifth] av1 and 2-sty brick and stone 
> store, 100.8x 11.1
> 
> 
> 191283$15,000.0022D [22ND] ST, No. 336 E
> (o) Our Lady of Grace Hospital & Home (o) 334 E 22d [22nd]
> (a) Reiley & Steinbach (a) 481 5th [Fifth] av4-sty bk day nursery, 25x 58
> 
> 
> 1916359$500,000.0070TH ST, 147-53 West, and 146 West 71st st
> (o) Cardinal John M. Farley (o) 252 Madison av
> (a) Gustave E. Steinback (a) 15 East 40th stthree 2-6-6-sty brick and stone 
> school, church and rectory, 80x 107x 200
> 
> 
> 1928206$160,000.00ARDEN ST, 73 to 91
> (o) Church of Our Lady Queens of Martyrs, Thayer st & Sherman av, Rev. Wm. C. 
> Ryder, pastor (o) 60 Thayer st
> (a) Gustave E. Steinback (a) 157 W 74th4 & 1-sty bk church & rectory, 26x 90 
> & 146x 83, 5-ply tarred felt & slag roof
> 
> 
> 194985$400,000.00ARDEN ST, 73-91
> (o) Church of Our Lady Queen of Martyrs (o) 91 Arden
> (a) Gustave E. Steinback (a) Hunting Ridge, Stamford, Conn
> 
> 4-sty bk school, 58x 77
> 
> 
> Bored yet?    Christopher 
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> <DIV>In a message dated 9/27/2006 7:21:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, tangora@=
> UIC.EDU writes:</DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue=20=
> 2px solid"><FONT face=3DArial>Can one of you New-York-based experts help me=20=
> find more information about this architect, biographical and/or list of buil=
> dings?&nbsp; </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">From the AIA Guide:</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Originally College of the Immaculate Con=
> ception, Washington Ave. NE cor. Atlantic Ave. 1916. Gustave Steinback. </FO=
> NT><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">A neo-neo-Gothic school building of great=20=
> charm and elegance in brick and limestone.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">From a database of NYC (Manhattan) New B=
> uilding permits (from 1900-1986) posted on the web by some gasbag with a wif=
> e who has a house with constant porch screen problems)(the year referenced i=
> s the year filed - almost all, but not all, permits are pursued to conclusio=
> n; the dollar figure is the cost of construction):</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">
> <P><FONT face=3DArial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular color=3Dblack s=
> ize=3D2><B>OFFICE FOR METROPOLITAN HISTORY :: MANHATTAN NB DATABASE SEARCH R=
> ESULTS, SORTED BY YEAR</B><BR><EM>Citation format: Office for Metropolitan H=
> istory, "Manhattan NB Database 1900-1986," (date of access), http://www.Metr=
> oHistory.com</EM></FONT><FONT face=3DArial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Re=
> gular color=3Dwhite size=3D6><B><BR></B></FONT><A href=3D"http://www.metrohi=
> story.com/dbpages/NBsearch.lasso"><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, s=
> ans-serif" color=3D#000000 size=3D3><B>NEW SEARCH</B></FONT></A></P>
> <TABLE cellSpacing=3D2 cellPadding=3D1 align=3Dcenter border=3D0>
> <TBODY>
> <TR>
> <TD colSpan=3D5>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" siz=
> e=3D2>SEARCH PARAMETERS:</FONT> <FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, san=
> s-serif" size=3D2>ARCHITECT: <B>steinba</B>, </FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
> <TR>
> <TD colSpan=3D5>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" siz=
> e=3D2><B>9</B> RECORDS FOUND, DISPLAYING (<B>1</B> TO <B>9</B>)</FONT></DIV>=
> </TD></TR>
> <TR>
> <TD colSpan=3D5>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter></DIV></TD></TR>
> <TR>
> <TD colSpan=3D5></TD></TR>
> <TR>
> <TD colSpan=3D5>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><SPAN class=3Dstyle1><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>KEY:=20=
> (o) =3D OWNER, (a) =3D ARCHITECT</FONT></SPAN></DIV></TD></TR>
> <TR>
> <TD>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT size=3D1>YEAR</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT size=3D1>DOB NB#</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT size=3D1>COST</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD>
> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D1>ADDRESS, OWNER, ARCHITECT</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD><FONT size=3D1>DESCRIPTION, COMMENTS</FONT></TD></TR>
> <TR>
> <TD><FONT size=3D-4></FONT></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> <TD></TD></TR>
> <TR vAlign=3Dbottom>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" siz=
> e=3D1>1907</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" siz=
> e=3D1>745</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" siz=
> e=3D1>$1,000.00</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=
> =3D1><B>Mulberry st, No 82</B><BR>(o) Mary McGowan Murray (o) 301 W 104th st=
> <BR>(a) Reiley &amp; Steinback (a) 481 5th [Fifth] av</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=
> =3D1>1-sty brk and stone outhouse, 16.4x 10.4<BR><EM></EM></FONT></DIV></TD>=
> </TR>
> <TR height=3D10>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10><FONT size=3D-4></FONT></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> <TD></TD></TR>
> <TR vAlign=3Dbottom>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" siz=
> e=3D1>1907</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" siz=
> e=3D1>746</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" siz=
> e=3D1>$1,000.00</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=
> =3D1><B>Mulberry st, No 87</B><BR>(o) Mary McGowan Murray (o) 301 W 104th st=
> <BR>(a) Reiley &amp; Steinback (a) 481 5th [Fifth] av</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=
> =3D1>1-sty brk and stone outhouse, 18.10x 10.4<BR><EM></EM></FONT></DIV></TD=
> 
>></TR>
> 
> <TR height=3D10>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10><FONT size=3D-4></FONT></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> <TD></TD></TR>
> <TR vAlign=3Dbottom>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" siz=
> e=3D1>1908</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" siz=
> e=3D1>490</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" siz=
> e=3D1>$7,000.00</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=
> =3D1><B>Broadway, n e cor 61st st</B><BR>(o) Jeremiah J Campion (o) 20 E 10t=
> h st<BR>(a) Reiley &amp; Steinback (a) 481 5th [Fifth] av</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=
> =3D1>1-sty brk and concrete stores, 116.1x 28 and 76<BR><EM></EM></FONT></DI=
> V></TD></TR>
> <TR height=3D10>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10><FONT size=3D-4></FONT></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> <TD></TD></TR>
> <TR vAlign=3Dbottom>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" siz=
> e=3D1>1909</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" siz=
> e=3D1>749</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" siz=
> e=3D1>$1,000.00</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=
> =3D1><B>MULBERRY ST, No. 87</B><BR>(o) Mary McGowan Murray (o) 321 West 77th=
>  st<BR>(a) Reiley &amp; Steinback (a) 481 5th [Fifth] av</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=
> =3D1>1-sty brick outhouse, 18x 10.4<BR><EM></EM></FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
> <TR height=3D10>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10><FONT size=3D-4></FONT></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> <TD></TD></TR>
> <TR vAlign=3Dbottom>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" siz=
> e=3D1>1910</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" siz=
> e=3D1>218</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" siz=
> e=3D1>$5,000.00</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=
> =3D1><B>MADISON AV, n w cor 90th st</B><BR>(o) Ida, Kate &amp; Frances Campi=
> on (o) 28 East 10th st<BR>(a) Reiley &amp; Steinback (a) 481 5th [Fifth] av<=
> /FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=
> =3D1>1 and 2-sty brick and stone store, 100.8x 11.1<BR><EM></EM></FONT></DIV=
> 
>></TD></TR>
> 
> <TR height=3D10>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10><FONT size=3D-4></FONT></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> <TD></TD></TR>
> <TR vAlign=3Dbottom>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" siz=
> e=3D1>1912</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" siz=
> e=3D1>83</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" siz=
> e=3D1>$15,000.00</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=
> =3D1><B>22D [22ND] ST, No. 336 E</B><BR>(o) Our Lady of Grace Hospital &amp;=
>  Home (o) 334 E 22d [22nd]<BR>(a) Reiley &amp; Steinbach (a) 481 5th [Fifth]=
>  av</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=
> =3D1>4-sty bk day nursery, 25x 58<BR><EM></EM></FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
> <TR height=3D10>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10><FONT size=3D-4></FONT></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> <TD></TD></TR>
> <TR vAlign=3Dbottom>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" siz=
> e=3D1>1916</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" siz=
> e=3D1>359</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" siz=
> e=3D1>$500,000.00</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=
> =3D1><B>70TH ST, 147-53 West, and 146 West 71st st</B><BR>(o) Cardinal John=20=
> M. Farley (o) 252 Madison av<BR>(a) Gustave E. Steinback (a) 15 East 40th st=
> </FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=
> =3D1>three 2-6-6-sty brick and stone school, church and rectory, 80x 107x 20=
> 0<BR><EM></EM></FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
> <TR height=3D10>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10><FONT size=3D-4></FONT></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> <TD></TD></TR>
> <TR vAlign=3Dbottom>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" siz=
> e=3D1>1928</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" siz=
> e=3D1>206</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" siz=
> e=3D1>$160,000.00</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=
> =3D1><B>ARDEN ST, 73 to 91</B><BR>(o) Church of Our Lady Queens of Martyrs,=20=
> Thayer st &amp; Sherman av, Rev. Wm. C. Ryder, pastor (o) 60 Thayer st<BR>(a=
> ) Gustave E. Steinback (a) 157 W 74th</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=
> =3D1>4 &amp; 1-sty bk church &amp; rectory, 26x 90 &amp; 146x 83, 5-ply tarr=
> ed felt &amp; slag roof<BR><EM></EM></FONT></DIV></TD></TR>
> <TR height=3D10>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10></TD>
> <TD height=3D10><FONT size=3D-4></FONT></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> <TD></TD>
> <TD></TD></TR>
> <TR vAlign=3Dbottom>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" siz=
> e=3D1>1949</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" siz=
> e=3D1>85</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" siz=
> e=3D1>$400,000.00</FONT></DIV></TD>
> <TD vAlign=3Dtop>
> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=
> =3D1><B>ARDEN ST, 73-91</B><BR>(o) Church of Our Lady Queen of Martyrs (o) 9=
> 1 Arden<BR>(a) Gustave E. Steinback (a) Hunting Ridge, Stamford, Conn</FONT>=
> </DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=
> =3D1>4-sty bk school, 58x 77<BR><EM></EM></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>Bored yet?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Christopher </DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML>
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date:    Wed, 27 Sep 2006 22:21:36 EDT
> From:    [log in to unmask]
> Subject: she forgot to say what colors they were....
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> Cross post from the Conservation Dist-List:
> 
> <<<Date: 18 Sep 2006
> From: Andrea Tritton <trit0006 [at] algonquincollege__com>
> Subject: Storing parachute
> 
> I am a museum studies student in Ottawa (Canada) doing an internship
> in the collections department of the Canadian War Museum.
> My project is to figure out a new method of storage for the museum's
> parachute collection (mostly World War II era basic canopy
> parachutes of varying sizes and fabrics for either personnel or
> cargo), to minimize damage and stress on the fabric--probably by
> designing some sort of hanging mechanism or structure (rather than
> folding them).
> 
> I was wondering if anyone on the DistList has encountered this sort
> of parachute challenge before, and how you went about resolving it.
> Otherwise, I would appreciate any and all ideas and/or suggestions
> that might help guide me in this project.
> 
> Andrea Tritton
> Algonquin College Applied Museum Studies >>>
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> <DIV>Cross post from the Conservation Dist-List:</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>&lt;&lt;&lt;Date: 18 Sep 2006<BR>From: Andrea Tritton &lt;trit0006 [at]=
>  algonquincollege__com&gt;<BR>Subject: Storing parachute<BR><BR>I am a museu=
> m studies student in Ottawa (Canada) doing an internship<BR>in the collectio=
> ns department of the Canadian War Museum.<BR>My project is to figure out a n=
> ew method of storage for the museum's<BR>parachute collection (mostly World=20=
> War II era basic canopy<BR>parachutes of varying sizes and fabrics for eithe=
> r personnel or<BR>cargo), to minimize damage and stress on the fabric--proba=
> bly by<BR>designing some sort of hanging mechanism or structure (rather than=
> <BR>folding them).<BR><BR>I was wondering if anyone on the DistList has enco=
> untered this sort<BR>of parachute challenge before, and how you went about r=
> esolving it.<BR>Otherwise, I would appreciate any and all ideas and/or sugge=
> stions<BR>that might help guide me in this project.<BR><BR>Andrea Tritton<BR=
> 
>>Algonquin College Applied Museum Studies &gt;&gt;&gt;</DIV></BODY></HTML>
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> Date:    Wed, 27 Sep 2006 22:34:50 EDT
> From:    [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: she forgot to say what colors they were....
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> Are you suggesting that olive drab would be too exciting for our quiet  
> friends up north?
>  
> Having thought about this matter for about 30 seconds, after watching Frank  
> Gehry on PBS, I would think your friend Andrea might consider some sort of  
> dome-like structure matching the shape of the deployed parachute.   The 
> parachute(s) would rest on this dome (or might be inflated from below  by gigunda 
> fans) in their deployed configuration,  similar to the way that  costumes are 
> displayed on a person-shaped mannequin, supporting the  fabric in the shape it was 
> intended to form.
>  
> Tell me how many ways this is wrong.  And I don't want to hear that  Andrea 
> doesn't have enough space.
>  
> Ralph
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> <DIV>Are you suggesting that olive drab would be&nbsp;too exciting for our q=
> uiet=20
> friends up north?</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>Having thought about this matter for about 30 seconds, after watching F=
> rank=20
> Gehry on PBS, I would think your friend Andrea might consider some sort of=20
> dome-like structure&nbsp;matching the shape of the deployed parachute.&nbsp;=
> =20
> The&nbsp;parachute(s) would rest on this dome (or might be inflated from bel=
> ow=20
> by gigunda fans) in their deployed configuration, &nbsp;similar to the way t=
> hat=20
> costumes are displayed on a person-shaped mannequin, supporting the=20
> fabric&nbsp;in the shape it was intended to form.</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>Tell me how many ways this is wrong.&nbsp; And I don't want to hear tha=
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> Andrea doesn't have enough space.</DIV>
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> Date:    Wed, 27 Sep 2006 22:50:16 EDT
> From:    [log in to unmask]
> Subject: hey, isn't that blimp hangar at Lakehurst available?
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> In a message dated 9/27/2006 10:35:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
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> The parachute(s) would rest on this dome (or might be inflated from below by 
> gigunda fans) in their deployed configuration,  similar to the way that 
> costumes are displayed on a person-shaped mannequin, supporting the fabric in the 
> shape it was intended to form.
> Men are so unimaginative!  Museum docents should wear the parachutes, and 
> have giant fans underneath them set so that they hover above the floor, like 
> Marilyn Monroe over the subway grating.  (Please note:  the docents must wear 
> underwear, except for Benefactor Members Nights.)  I know, I know, you're going to 
> complain that the catheters will detract from the verisimilitude - gosh, why 
> not think positively???   
> 
> c
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> 2px solid"><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The&nbsp;parachute(s) would rest on t=
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> <DIV>Men are so unimaginative!&nbsp; Museum docents should wear the parachut=
> es, and have giant fans underneath them set so that they hover above the flo=
> or, like Marilyn Monroe over the subway grating.&nbsp; (Please note:&nbsp; t=
> he docents must wear underwear, except for Benefactor Members Nights.)&nbsp;=
>  I know, I know, you're going to complain that the catheters will detract fr=
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> Date:    Thu, 28 Sep 2006 04:04:27 +0000
> From:    Brian Robinson <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: For future reference as needed (hopefully not soon)
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> Doll Houses of Mortality 
> I have been in a serious funk for the past 4 days. My old boss, 
> Jekyll Island Executive Director Bill Donohue's son, A.J., died Saturday at the age of 18 after a 2 year battle with cancer. A.J. faced his illness with courage and faith so my general sense of weirdness is only partly a result of his passing. As a parent, I can't even fathom the idea of burying a child. My father lost a 25 year old brother in an auto accident and my mother lost a 39 year old brother as the result of a military plane crash, so this issue is not new to members of the Clan Robinson.
> I find myself very angry at the commercialization of the "death industry". $10,000 funerals, tacky fake 
> victorian funeral homes, videos of the deceased, etc. give me pause. In the old days the undertaker would fit you with a casket (a plain pine box) embalm you, and take you back to your home for a day of  visitation with friends and family. Men, usually cousins or uncles, would "sit up with the dead" all night and the next day the undertakers wagon/hearse would take you to the church for the service. After the service you would then be toted  next door to the church cemetery for burial. A process that was sweet, simple, to the point, and very protestant.
> The concept of the "funeral home"... where did this come from? I have never been in a funeral home that I would want to be caught dead in. Floral print wall paper, taped recordings of "Danny Boy" over the loudspeaker (for God's sake, I am not Irish or Catholic), emotional videos (you can buy these as a 
> memento) showing scenes from your life. Cheeze city. I understand the need for a larger venue to accommodate guests, but good grief. Last night everyone was piled into an adjacent room watching video footage of a healthy, happy A.J., while his wasted earthly remains were alone against the wall with no one as much as paying him two seconds of attention. Unnerving for me...but I guess it is not about me. 
> Anyway, I am going to build my own coffin from heart pine. It is going to be a plain rectangular box that can be used as a coffee table until I need it. Just plop a piece of glass on top and add a couple of books and coasters and no one will know the difference. My body will be displayed at home for one evening and everyone will get drunk (even the baptists) and tell stories about how I could be such an ass but, by God,  I was a lovely ass. The next day, me and my homemade coffin will be loaded into the back of a vintage pickup (GM) along with my dogs and then proceed to the church for the service. I would prefer a mule wagon a la 
> MLK, Jr, but a pre 1970 truck will do if no wagon is available and the distance makes mule travel problematic. Under no circumstance am I to be loaded into a truck with a catalytic converter.
> In my coffin I will be wearing my 
> kilt. I will also have the following... my masonic apron, a copy of the KJV bible, a photo of my family, and a small square (not the improper rectangular) confederate battle flag. A Scottish flag will cover my pine box.       
> At the church we will continue to proclaim what an ass I was in a good way. We will then load my homemade box into the truck/wagon for burial in a "real cemetery" that has headstones and monuments. None of this flush with the ground bronze plaque crap that makes it easy to mow over.  I want a Celtic Cross like the 
> Oglethorpe memorial in Brunswick, GA. It will be engraved with my name, birth and death dates. In Gaelic it will also be engraved with  2 Timothy 4, " I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith.
> At the cemetery my children will comment again on what an ass I was, in a good way. As they lower me into the ground, a bag piper will play Amazing Grace and then as the crowd disperses he will play Scotland the Brave. Everyone will then proceed to my house where they will proceed to get drunk (even the baptists) on Bass Ale and Champagne. Bar B-Q, fried catfish, and collard greens will be served. My Jewish friends are to be 
> accommodated with an alternative non pork, non scaleless fish, non fatback soaked veggie alternative. 
>  Et in 
> Arcadio ego.
> 
> Brian Scott Robinson, MHP 
> Professor 
> Savannah College of Art and Design 
> School of Building Arts 
> Historic Preservation Department 
> P.O. Box 3146 
> Savannah, GA 31402 
> 
> 912 525 6940 office (Mon/Wed only) 
> 912 262 1202 home (students emergency only) 
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> <P>I have been in a serious funk for the past 4 days. My old boss,&nbsp;</P>Jekyll&nbsp;Island Executive Director Bill Donohue's&nbsp;son, A.J., died&nbsp;Saturday at the age of 18 after a 2 year battle with cancer. A.J. faced his illness with courage and faith so my general sense of weirdness is&nbsp;only partly a result of his passing. As a parent, I can't even fathom the idea of burying a child. My father lost a 25 year old brother&nbsp;in an auto accident and my mother lost a 39 year old brother as the result of a military plane crash,&nbsp;so this issue is not new&nbsp;to&nbsp;members of the&nbsp;Clan Robinson.
> <P></P>
> <P>I find myself very angry at the commercialization of the "death industry". $10,000 funerals,&nbsp;tacky fake </P>victorian&nbsp;funeral homes, videos of the deceased, etc. give me pause. In the old days the undertaker would fit you with a casket (a plain pine box) embalm you, and take you back to your home for&nbsp;a day of &nbsp;visitation&nbsp;with friends and family. Men, usually cousins or uncles,&nbsp;would "sit up with the dead" all night and the next&nbsp;day the undertakers wagon/hearse would take you to the church for the service.&nbsp;After the service you would then be toted&nbsp;&nbsp;next door to the church cemetery for burial. A process that was sweet, simple,&nbsp;to the point, and very protestant.
> <P></P>
> <P>The concept of the "funeral home"... where did this come from? I have never been&nbsp;in a funeral home that I would want to be caught dead in. Floral print wall&nbsp;paper, taped recordings of "Danny Boy" over the loudspeaker (for God's sake, I am not Irish or Catholic), emotional videos (you can buy these as a </P>memento)&nbsp;showing scenes from your life. Cheeze&nbsp;city. I understand the need for a larger venue to accommodate&nbsp;guests, but good&nbsp;grief. Last night everyone was piled into an adjacent room&nbsp;watching video footage of a healthy, happy&nbsp;A.J., while&nbsp;his wasted earthly remains were alone against the wall with no one as much as paying him&nbsp;two seconds of attention. Unnerving for me...but I guess it is not about me. 
> <P></P>
> <P>Anyway, I am going to build my own coffin from heart pine. It is going to be a plain rectangular box that can be used as a coffee table until I need it. Just plop a piece of glass on top and add a couple of books and coasters and no one will know the difference. My&nbsp;body will be displayed at&nbsp;home for one evening and everyone will get drunk (even the baptists) and tell stories about how I could be such an ass but, by God, &nbsp;I was a lovely ass. The next day,&nbsp;me and&nbsp;my homemade coffin will be loaded into the back of a vintage&nbsp;pickup (GM) along with my dogs and&nbsp;then proceed to the church for the&nbsp;service. I would&nbsp;prefer a mule&nbsp;wagon a&nbsp;la </P>MLK, Jr, but a pre 1970 truck will do if no wagon is available and the distance makes mule travel problematic. Under no circumstance&nbsp;am I to be loaded into a truck with a catalytic converter.
> <P></P>
> <P>In my coffin I will be wearing my </P>kilt. I will also have the following... my masonic&nbsp;apron, a copy of the KJV&nbsp;bible, a photo of my family,&nbsp;and a small square (not the improper rectangular) confederate battle flag. A Scottish flag will cover my&nbsp;pine box.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
> <P></P>
> <P>At the church we will continue to&nbsp;proclaim what an ass I was in a good way. We will then load my homemade box into the truck/wagon for burial in a "real&nbsp;cemetery" that has headstones and monuments. None of this flush with the&nbsp;ground bronze plaque crap that makes it easy to mow over. &nbsp;I want a Celtic Cross like the </P>Oglethorpe&nbsp;memorial in Brunswick, GA. It will be engraved with&nbsp;my name, birth and death dates. In Gaelic it will also be engraved with&nbsp;&nbsp;2 Timothy 4, " I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith.
> <P></P>
> <P>At the cemetery&nbsp;my children will comment again on what an ass I was, in a good way. As they lower me into the ground, a bag piper will play Amazing Grace&nbsp;and then as the crowd disperses&nbsp;he will play Scotland the&nbsp;Brave.&nbsp;Everyone will then proceed to my house where they will proceed to get&nbsp;drunk (even the baptists) on Bass Ale and Champagne. Bar B-Q, fried catfish, and collard greens will be served. My Jewish friends are to be </P>accommodated&nbsp;with an alternative non pork, non scaleless&nbsp;fish, non fatback&nbsp;soaked veggie&nbsp;alternative. 
> <P></P>
> <P>&nbsp;Et in </P>Arcadio&nbsp;ego.
> <P></P><BR>Brian Scott Robinson, MHP&nbsp;<BR>Professor <BR>Savannah College of Art and Design <BR>School of Building Arts <BR>Historic Preservation Department <BR>P.O. Box 3146 <BR>Savannah, GA 31402 <BR><BR>912 525 6940 office (Mon/Wed only) <BR>912 262 1202 home (students emergency only) <BR>[log in to unmask]&nbsp;<BR><BR><BR><BR></DIV>
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