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John Callan <[log in to unmask]>
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Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]>
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Leland,

How about defining the American who averages 5-7 years in a house?  
These may not be the folks you want influencing community planning 
efforts.

-jc


On Feb 28, 2005, at 8:59 AM, Leland Torrence wrote:

> Americans on average only own their houses 5 to seven years.  About 45 
> million moved last year.  I don't know what the mean is, or what the 
> European numbers are.  Anyone?   A number of studies show that second 
> home buying in the US will be at a rate of 1,000 units per day for the 
> next decade.  Approximately 6.5 million people have second homes 
> today, which is about 6% of all home owners.   Although more people 
> are moving within the same county, the statistics are plainly stacked 
> against the development of long term community development, local 
> accountability and the creation of any planning efforts that will look 
> at the long term. 
>      I recommend an interesting article on planning "A call for the 
> Radical revitalization of American Planning" by Emily Talen.
>  
> Best,
> Leland
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot 
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Met 
> History
> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 4:17 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [BP] Yo, Heidi, put that in your proletarian vacation 
> house!!!! christopher
>
> In a message dated 2/25/2005 4:05:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
> [log in to unmask] writes:
> Europeans rennovate vacation houses in their home towns. Americans 
> dont. Our towns are goners.
> Cooking can be a pleasure when it is not at the end of a workday. It is
> different when on holiday.
> Less wealthy people in Europe have vacation houses than do the
> equivalent Americans strata, regardless of the proletarian look of the
> Jersey Shore It is precisely because Americans move around a lot, and 
> because families are therfore dispersed they yearn for  a permanent 
> vacation place, Something that recurs in time and place.
> And I dont have "statistics".  I read, travel, observe and think-- the
> old way. The way when we used to do things right. Modern planning is
> all about statistics and the outcome is garbage. All sorts of
> ineptitude and timidity and lack of vision is disguised behind.
> Statistics. We work on models that are observable. They are more
> integrated than statistics and a shorter leap to the desired outcome.
> This is the New Urbanist way.


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