I never go much further than asking folks with foul mouths if they kiss
their mother with it.  But, it was Ken that I was asking.  Howl is
foul...but it struck the right cord at one time.  I have  a fond memory
of reading it aloud at the front entrance of the Jr. High....late at
night...loud.  I believe I used the same stage to practice Brutus'
epiteph for Julius...something I had to memorize...memorizing is not my
strong suit.

Today was my daughter Julia's 21st birthday.  She's been flashing that
card and getting served.  But she's been with family all day and is
quite sober.  The ides of March has passed harmlessly this time.

-jc


On Sunday, March 16, 2003, at 12:34  AM, Ruth Barton wrote:

> I can assure you I have NEVER spoken to Ginsberg.  One of the teachers
> as
> school had a book he wrote, I never considered myself a prude BUT, I
> never
> read such nasty stuff IN ALL MY LIFE!!!!!  I wouldn't know what to say
> to
> such a person who wrote such perverted stuff except WASH YOUR MOUTH OUT
> WITH LYE SOAP!!!!!  Ruth
>
>
>
> At 4:37 PM -0600 3/15/03, John Callan wrote:
>> I am not the least disappointed with the outcome.  I doubt I'd have
>> ended up at my beloved Tundra Tech if I had not been spurned by
>> Windham
>> and abused by RinkyDink U.  And Tundra Tech did me a world of good.
>> We
>> are kind of hoping to send our son there...kinda hoping he doesn't
>> have
>> to take the pinball bumper careening route I took to get there...and
>> he
>> has indicated an occasional passing interest.
>>
>> Have you really spoken to Ginsberg?  Wow, that would impress Patrick
>> that I know someone who spoke to Ginsberg!
>>
>> -jc
>>
>> Actually, a year earlier than applying to Windham, I was really
>> excited
>> about the Forestry School at Wanakeena(spelling?) NY.  I was gonna be
>> a
>> smoke jumper and do something useful.  Then I saw the requirement for
>> Trigonometry and I just gave up on the whole thing.  Years later,
>> making up math deficiets to get into Architecture School, I discovered
>> that I absolutely loved trigonometry.  It was the first math course
>> that made sense and you could use it to do something more useful than
>> mixing chemicals!  Who knew?!  I feel really sorry for kids who close
>> doors without walking through and at least seeing if anyone is
>> guarding
>> the door ready to kick their sorry unprepared butt out.  I'm a big fan
>> of open enrollment and heavy duty competition to stay.  Comes from
>> growing up in the wrong neighborhood, I suppose.
>> -jc
>>
>> On Saturday, March 15, 2003, at 03:29  PM, Ken Follett wrote:
>>
>>>> Hey, I made it easy for a school to turn me down...
>>>
>>> John: I was turned down by Deep Springs twice. Only place I ever
>>> really wanted to go. A 2-yr cattle ranch/school north of Death
>>> Valley.
>>> I don't know why now because I hate hot places. Back then it was my
>>> absolute. They said that due to my heavy interest in William Blake
>>> that I exceeded their quota for mysticism, or something much. I
>>> suppose the fact I said I wanted to be a poet at one of my interviews
>>> but had no idea who Gary Snyder was did not help. Years later
>>> Ginsberg
>>> advised me to go to Naropa University to The Jack Kerouac School of
>>> Disembodied Poetics. But by that time I was set cranky in my stubborn
>>> angst. I was raised around the intellectual hyperventittilation of
>>> Cornell. For a semi-conscious townie that is a brain f*ck. Wrote a
>>> letter once to Columbia Univ. telling them they did not know what
>>> they
>>> were missing. I'm still waiting for them to respond... though I like
>>> the checks pretty well they send when we fix their buildings. Best I
>>> ever did insofar as education was stop self-medicating and start
>>> busting stone. Hayvard began w/ a library and with the zeal of a
>>> rabid
>>> survivalist I've been accumulating books for a while now -- just need
>>> to make a few more adjustments. If I sum up my education into a
>>> nutshell it was one afternoon when the Snap-On Tools salesman we were
>>> building a little masonry for told me his observation of life that
>>> when we need to know something it happens to come along, we only need
>>> to be strong and ready to grab it. Education is a state of mind.
>>> ][<en
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