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"Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit
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On his Mac.



Sign me,

We're still out here



> -----Original Message-----

> From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit 

> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf 

> Of Leland Torrence

> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 6:02 PM

> To: [log in to unmask]

> Subject: Re: Absolute Zero

> 

> 

> John,

> I am impressed, but where is the option key?

> Leland

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit 

> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf 

> Of John Callan

> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 11:19 AM

> To: [log in to unmask]

> Subject: Re: Windham College

> 

> 

> My location for the degree mark is the asterix with the option and  

> shift key down°°°°°°°°°°°.  I think it may change depending on which  

> font you are using...but I'm satisfied that I rememberd it at all.   

> When I forget it takes a long long time to find it again.

> 

> -jc

> 

> On Sunday, March 16, 2003, at 06:56  AM, Leland Torrence wrote:

> 

> >         Now there's the ][<en I know.  You must ramble more 

> often.   

> > And how do you find the long and short marks on the computer key 

> > board?  Oh, and while we're at it, where is the little circle for

> > degrees?

> >         Thanks for reminding me of Vachel Lindsey.  I 

> enjoyed a good  

> > read this morning after reading your post.  My father used 

> to read him  

> > aloud to us but then he sailed from Byzantium and got mired 

> in his own  

> > Prufrock.

> >         Terra Dactyl

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit 

> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ken

> > Follett

> > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 7:07 PM

> > To: [log in to unmask]

> > Subject: Re: Windham College

> >

> >

> > John,

> >

> > I'm not disappointed with either of our outcomes. Though the other

> > night when I woke up suddenly at 2:25 AM with a start 

> dreaming that  

> > loading the shotgun in the closet and blowing my head off might be  

> > beneficial to the family...  mind you, this is not catastrophic  

> > suicidal but a measure of personal engagement with the 

> outcome of not  

> > wanting to let my friends or family down... the stress 

> caused me to  

> > pause long enough to wonder what the f*ck this is all 

> about! Christ,  

> > John, ask Jim Hicks if I am not suffering from am 

> unshakeable belief  

> > that I am responsible for the well being of the entire universe.

> >

> > Always willing to assist in the development of good character.

> >

> > Yeah. I sat directly across from Allen at table for a lunch at the

> > Rockland County Community College and had a pleasant chat with his  

> > humbleness for close to an hour before he went on to his reading.  

> > Meeting him was one of the goals of my youth. He was 

> wearing a suit  

> > and tie and he was not what I had expected. Prior to that I 

> had seen  

> > him performing at an anti-war rally in Washington. Meeting 

> him was a  

> > turning point in my de-mythologizing of the hero. It was 

> also when I  

> > found out that young muscular stonemasonry bucks eating lunch with  

> > famous old poets would attract ditzy female poets with large  

> > gazoongas. Though I enjoy his early work, particularly Howl and  

> > Kaddish, his later work I feel got a bit flaccid and he was 

> running on  

> > fumes. He wrote a poem about a green terra cotta building 

> in Manhattan  

> > that I recall was very moving... Sharpshooter will know the 

> building.  

> > Ginsberg remains a character that I am curious about, the 

> full extent  

> > of his career and how much of a pure businessman he was about  

> > promoting his group, the beats. He was damned sharp about 

> business and  

> > promotion. He was still busy promoting the beats when I met 

> him. I was  

> > tagging on the heals of a lesser known beat, Charlie 

> Plymell, an old  

> > friend of his. Plymell turned out to be a manic-depressive 

> coke head  

> > with all sorts of emotional and anger control problems. 

> Charlie's wife  

> > Pamela was the daughter of Sylvia Beach, a publisher of 

> James Joyce.  

> > Sylvia ran around with a French guy named Claude Peleu (sp) 

> Washburn  

> > who was a real whacka-do. I also met and spent some time with Ray  

> > Bremser who at that point was totally strung out and near 

> the end of  

> > his life. It was not long before we could not stomach Charlie --  

> > particularly after he decided that I was the Ken Follett 

> that had just  

> > got a $35,000 advance on my first novel and that I was not 

> sharing --  

> > and we split that scene. The fact that Ginzberg died is more  

> > significant to me than the death of Mr. Rogers. Anyone that 

> would piss  

> > on the desk of a dean at Columbia, apocryphal or not, has got my  

> > interest. Where is our Ginsberg now? The man legitimized 

> the left and  

> > most certainly poetisized politics. I regret though that I 

> did not ask  

> > him about his meeting with Ezra Pound. And there is one thing that  

> > sticks in my mind which is Ginsberg talking about losing 

> ourselves to  

> > the point that we not only relenquish our belongings,like a  

> > transitorized Marcus Aurelieus, but that we may even approach the  

> > consciousness of losing our name. I've been out to look 

> toward that  

> > place of silence and losing name and feel that without going there  

> > that we will never quite be whole with ourselves. Sort of 

> akin to the  

> > strategy that Zen poetics -- snap bang --

> >

> > My favorite encounter with a famous poet was going to a reading of

> > Robert Creeley in Buffalo. The reading was at a small 

> coffee & new-age  

> > donut shop kind of place with mint tea and incense so we 

> all sat on  

> > wooden folding chairs and it was real close. Early in the 

> afternoon on  

> > a Saturday. I like to sit up front. Creeley was late, real 

> late. We  

> > had driven a long long way to see him. He showed up drunk 

> and brought  

> > his own six of beer. He proceeded to wobble around in his 

> chair and  

> > mumble and curse at us, pop his cans and drink beer. 

> Finally I told  

> > him that if he could not give us any poetry at least he 

> could share  

> > his f*ckin beer. He was not in a mood to share and we left. 

> As far as  

> > I can tell the guy has written one really good poem. He should be  

> > happy.

> >

> > My disappointment was when I did not get to actually see Borges. He

> > was speaking at NYU and I drove into town from Westchester after  

> > working all day. DUe to circumstances beyond my ambition we 

> ended up  

> > spending too much time in a friggin pizza parlor and by the 

> time our  

> > friend got us to the gig we had to stand outside and listen 

> to Borges  

> > over an intercom.

> >

> > Today and yesterday my favorite poet is Vachel Lindsey.

> >

> > Tell Patrick that if he wants to meet someone famous that he should

> > listen to you about getting an education... and when the 

> time is right  

> > you can tell him that all you got to do is have the b*lls to say,  

> > Hello, how are you? Nice weather, you know." Problem we got 

> here these  

> > days with industrialized celebrity is that the famous 

> people to meet  

> > are usually very shallow. Who wants to really meet Donald Trump or  

> > Michael Jackson?

> >

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