This came to me as Greek but when I hit reply it straightened out. Don't
know why. Ruth
At 6:12 PM -0500 3/16/03, Becker, Dan wrote:
>On his Mac.
>
>Sign me,
>We're still out here
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
>> Of Leland Torrence
>> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 6:02 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Absolute Zero
>>
>>
>> John,
>> I am impressed, but where is the option key?
>> Leland
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
>> Of John Callan
>> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 11:19 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Windham College
>>
>>
>> My location for the degree mark is the asterix with the option and
>> shift key down. I think it may change depending
>>on which
>> font you are using...but I'm satisfied that I rememberd it at all.
>> When I forget it takes a long long time to find it again.
>>
>> -jc
>>
>> On Sunday, March 16, 2003, at 06:56 AM, Leland Torrence wrote:
>>
>> > Now there's the ][<en I know. You must ramble more
>> often.
>> > And how do you find the long and short marks on the computer key
>> > board? Oh, and while we're at it, where is the little circle for
>> > degrees?
>> > Thanks for reminding me of Vachel Lindsey. I
>> enjoyed a good
>> > read this morning after reading your post. My father used
>> to read him
>> > aloud to us but then he sailed from Byzantium and got mired
>> in his own
>> > Prufrock.
>> > Terra Dactyl
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ][<en Phollit
>> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ken
>> > Follett
>> > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 7:07 PM
>> > To: [log in to unmask]
>> > Subject: Re: Windham College
>> >
>> >
>> > John,
>> >
>> > I'm not disappointed with either of our outcomes. Though the other
>> > night when I woke up suddenly at 2:25 AM with a start
>> dreaming that
>> > loading the shotgun in the closet and blowing my head off might be
>> > beneficial to the family... mind you, this is not catastrophic
>> > suicidal but a measure of personal engagement with the
>> outcome of not
>> > wanting to let my friends or family down... the stress
>> caused me to
>> > pause long enough to wonder what the f*ck this is all
>> about! Christ,
>> > John, ask Jim Hicks if I am not suffering from am
>> unshakeable belief
>> > that I am responsible for the well being of the entire universe.
>> >
>> > Always willing to assist in the development of good character.
>> >
>> > Yeah. I sat directly across from Allen at table for a lunch at the
>> > Rockland County Community College and had a pleasant chat with his
>> > humbleness for close to an hour before he went on to his reading.
>> > Meeting him was one of the goals of my youth. He was
>> wearing a suit
>> > and tie and he was not what I had expected. Prior to that I
>> had seen
>> > him performing at an anti-war rally in Washington. Meeting
>> him was a
>> > turning point in my de-mythologizing of the hero. It was
>> also when I
>> > found out that young muscular stonemasonry bucks eating lunch with
>> > famous old poets would attract ditzy female poets with large
>> > gazoongas. Though I enjoy his early work, particularly Howl and
>> > Kaddish, his later work I feel got a bit flaccid and he was
>> running on
>> > fumes. He wrote a poem about a green terra cotta building
>> in Manhattan
>> > that I recall was very moving... Sharpshooter will know the
>> building.
>> > Ginsberg remains a character that I am curious about, the
>> full extent
>> > of his career and how much of a pure businessman he was about
>> > promoting his group, the beats. He was damned sharp about
>> business and
>> > promotion. He was still busy promoting the beats when I met
>> him. I was
>> > tagging on the heals of a lesser known beat, Charlie
>> Plymell, an old
>> > friend of his. Plymell turned out to be a manic-depressive
>> coke head
>> > with all sorts of emotional and anger control problems.
>> Charlie's wife
>> > Pamela was the daughter of Sylvia Beach, a publisher of
>> James Joyce.
>> > Sylvia ran around with a French guy named Claude Peleu (sp)
>> Washburn
>> > who was a real whacka-do. I also met and spent some time with Ray
>> > Bremser who at that point was totally strung out and near
>> the end of
>> > his life. It was not long before we could not stomach Charlie --
>> > particularly after he decided that I was the Ken Follett
>> that had just
>> > got a $35,000 advance on my first novel and that I was not
>> sharing --
>> > and we split that scene. The fact that Ginzberg died is more
>> > significant to me than the death of Mr. Rogers. Anyone that
>> would piss
>> > on the desk of a dean at Columbia, apocryphal or not, has got my
>> > interest. Where is our Ginsberg now? The man legitimized
>> the left and
>> > most certainly poetisized politics. I regret though that I
>> did not ask
>> > him about his meeting with Ezra Pound. And there is one thing that
>> > sticks in my mind which is Ginsberg talking about losing
>> ourselves to
>> > the point that we not only relenquish our belongings,like a
>> > transitorized Marcus Aurelieus, but that we may even approach the
>> > consciousness of losing our name. I've been out to look
>> toward that
>> > place of silence and losing name and feel that without going there
>> > that we will never quite be whole with ourselves. Sort of
>> akin to the
>> > strategy that Zen poetics -- snap bang --
>> >
>> > My favorite encounter with a famous poet was going to a reading of
>> > Robert Creeley in Buffalo. The reading was at a small
>> coffee & new-age
>> > donut shop kind of place with mint tea and incense so we
>> all sat on
>> > wooden folding chairs and it was real close. Early in the
>> afternoon on
>> > a Saturday. I like to sit up front. Creeley was late, real
>> late. We
>> > had driven a long long way to see him. He showed up drunk
>> and brought
>> > his own six of beer. He proceeded to wobble around in his
>> chair and
>> > mumble and curse at us, pop his cans and drink beer.
>> Finally I told
>> > him that if he could not give us any poetry at least he
>> could share
>> > his f*ckin beer. He was not in a mood to share and we left.
>> As far as
>> > I can tell the guy has written one really good poem. He should be
>> > happy.
>> >
>> > My disappointment was when I did not get to actually see Borges. He
>> > was speaking at NYU and I drove into town from Westchester after
>> > working all day. DUe to circumstances beyond my ambition we
>> ended up
>> > spending too much time in a friggin pizza parlor and by the
>> time our
>> > friend got us to the gig we had to stand outside and listen
>> to Borges
>> > over an intercom.
>> >
>> > Today and yesterday my favorite poet is Vachel Lindsey.
>> >
>> > Tell Patrick that if he wants to meet someone famous that he should
>> > listen to you about getting an education... and when the
>> time is right
>> > you can tell him that all you got to do is have the b*lls to say,
>> > Hello, how are you? Nice weather, you know." Problem we got
>> here these
>> > days with industrialized celebrity is that the famous
>> people to meet
>> > are usually very shallow. Who wants to really meet Donald Trump or
>> > Michael Jackson?
>> >
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