well I guess just like any program, the simpler it is to use the less
options you have. I guess that's only if the simplification consists of the
program doing things for you. Templates, objects and so on. As you suggest
starting with the basic bones would be a good idea. One thing that worried
me was a icon on the test version sent me that allowed automatic insertion
of clouds.
 It reminds me of the trend of buildings to be designed around catalogs
instead of the balance achieved pre 1850 when buildings were designed as an
entirety. Look at any window catalog and you will see wildly unbalanced
buildings.
    So I worry about a program telling me that I'm not on 16" centers or
have improperly dimensioned lumber. It doesn't seem that's a problem with
this program as you see it.ctb
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: [BP] Surprised again


> So far the restrictions are self imposed.  There are parts of the
> program I have not yet mastered.  I am aware of them, and go back and
> learn more about how they work when I decide I need them.  Drawing in
> 3D from the start is a real good thing.
>
> I did not buy the "Architect" package.  The basic package has the basic
> parts of buildings (walls, floors, roofs, windows, doors, light, etc.),
> as well as the basic tools for creating 3D and 2D shapes and objects.
> Learning within these limitations was a good thing.  There's a real
> clarity that comes from mastering the basics.
>
> I plan to purchase the Architecture package sometime soon.  Now that I
> have a basic understanding of what the program does with the data I
> input, a few short cuts for tedious things and a larger collection of
> plug-in objects and symbols would be nice.  If I'd had them earlier, I
> think they would have been confusing.
>
> What kind of restrictions did you have in mind?
>
> -jc
>
>
> On Mar 21, 2004, at 10:55 AM, creighton wrote:
>
> > do you find vector works restricts you in any way? ctb
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 11:36 AM
> > Subject: Re: [BP] Surprised again
> >
> >
> >> I'm using VectorWorks.
> >>
> >> I have had very little experience with AutoCAD, and like most
> >> "standard" programs, I found it had no other feature of any import.
> >> Since I tend not to work in standard ways, or on standard buildings,
> >> being the standard is not a compelling argument.
> >>
> >> -jc
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mar 21, 2004, at 9:31 AM, creighton wrote:
> >>
> >>> Very interesting , and timely. Are you using AutoCAD? I've Been
> >>> toying
> >>> with
> >>> AutoCAD 14 for two years without really applying myself. I recently
> >>> decided
> >>> to get on it, but first review the other programs out there ( vector
> >>> works,
> >>> softbuild, softplan) So far these seem to be ok for cookie cutter
> >>> houses,
> >>> but not for restoration work. Your experience, anyone else out there
> >>> have
> >>> something to check out before I commit? Unfortunately I am stuck with
> >>> windows.creighton
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 11:19 PM
> >>> Subject: [BP] Surprised again
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> I have been drawing two historic buildings in my CADD program.  The
> >>>> nature of the program is such that 3D is just how it works, or at
> >>>> least
> >>>> how I have learned it.  As I was drawing the building today, in
> >>>> order
> >>>> to study it and know it better, in its original construction, I
> >>>> realized that I was not only seeing things that have not been seen
> >>>> in
> >>>> a
> >>>> long time, but things that may have never been seen before.
> >>>>
> >>>> CADD drawing does amazing things, like defy gravity and the laws of
> >>>> physics.  Two things CAN occupy the same space at the same time.  I
> >>>> was
> >>>> drawing in a storage system that had been placed up against a
> >>>> counter.
> >>>> I never questioned it before, but when that sucker popped up in 3D,
> >>>> it
> >>>> was a surprise to me.  Must have been a surprise to the inspector on
> >>>> the job too!
> >>>>
> >>>> The 3D views help to confirm that what I think is going on really is
> >>>> going on.  That's great for an insecure guy like me.  Builds
> >>>> confidence.  I do think in 3D pretty much all the time and pretty
> >>>> effectively, but it is such a relief to have my minds eye view of
> >>>> the
> >>>> world confirmed.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cool.
> >>>>
> >>>> -jc
> >>>>
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