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Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:16:06 -0500
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Hi;
I'm not off to the apple store but does anyone have any idea when leopard is 
coming out?
Richard

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Buddy Brannan" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: An Off-Topic Mac VoiceOver Question


On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 07:34:42PM -0400, Lou Kline wrote:
> If you don't have a particular reason for needing a Mac, such as a
> particular software package that runs on a Mac, what you are describing
> could be handled by a Windows machine running HyperTerminal and a screen
> reader such as JAWS, Window-Eyes, or HAL.

...at a much higher price in total. While it's true that Voiceover (in 
Tiger) doesn't do what Martin wants, it will in the next version, along with 
lots of other useful screen reader things. (And you can even run Windows if 
you really have to.)

From Apple's Website:

Command the keyboard.

   If you have an extended keyboard, use the new NumPad Commander to program 
the keys on the numeric keypad with commonly
   used VoiceOver commands, giving you quick access to the features you use 
most often.

Hit the hot spots.

   VoiceOver hot spots monitor an object or area in an accessible window and 
notify you when something changes. Place up
   to 10 hot spots in any open application; when a notification comes in, 
you can jump directly to the relevant hot spot
   from whatever application you're using.

Navigate objects.

   In VoiceOver you can navigate sequentially through an application or 
document or skip through by object. For example,
   you could jump to the next or previous header, button, link, field, 
graphic, or text attribute, such as font or style.
   Improved navigation in Leopard makes it faster and easier for those with 
reduced motor skills or visual disabilities
   to move around the Mac.


Hear the screen.

   VoiceOver features unique sound effects that communicate what's happening 
onscreen. In Leopard, positional cues help
   you find and remember the location of items on the screen. All you need 
is a pair of stereo headphones or standard
   stereo speakers.

Custom fit.

   With Leopard, VoiceOver introduces more customization options for audio 
output. If you're just learning VoiceOver, you
   can set your preferences to provide greater detail in descriptions, then 
reduce the amount of audio information as you
   become more familiar with VoiceOver. You can also rearrange the order in 
which VoiceOver describes objects and events,
   so you hear the information you want most, first.

Search smart.

   The Find command in VoiceOver performs smart searches that match objects 
as well as text in the current window. Say,
   for example, you know the word "insert" appears somewhere in the window. 
You can search for it, and VoiceOver will
   take you to the matching text. If there happens to be an "insert" button 
in the window, VoiceOver can take you to it
   as well. VoiceOver keeps track of up to 64 previous searches.

Closed-captioned Mac.

   Improved closed captioning support in QuickTime 7.2 automatically 
displays the CEA-608 closed captioning text standard
   in analog broadcasts in the U.S.

Applications you can access.

   Accessible applications in Leopard speak text automatically, so you don't 
have to continually monitor them. For
   example, iChat speaks new text messages as they arrive, and Terminal 
speaks the results of UNIX commands. When text
   changes under the VoiceOver cursor, VoiceOver plays a sound to alert you 
or speaks the updated text. Many Mac
   applications, including TextEdit and Mail, take advantage of word 
completion, which saves time and helps you avoid
   mistakes by providing a pop-up list of words that begin with the current 
text.

Stay in sync.

   Have a .Mac account? Come Leopard, all your VoiceOver preferences can 
follow you from Mac to Mac.

   All features referenced in the Mac OS X Leopard website are subject to 
change.


>
> 73, de Lou K2LKK
>
>
>
> At 11:53 AM 8/29/2007 -0500, you wrote:
> >         I am sorry to hit the ham list with this question
> >because it is thoroughly off-topic, but I hope some of you may
> >be able to answer my question and you will know what I am
> >asking.
> >
> >         Is there a mode of operation in Mac Voiceover in which
> >the speech will echo new input to the screen without one's
> >having to manually do anything?
> >
> >         I am supposed to get a new work station in my job and I
> >think a Mac will be just the thing if it can do this. We will
> >sometimes log in to a system and wait for messages to pop up on
> >the screen when various network devices come up or go down. With
> >my present setup, I have a speech synthesizer on an old P.C.
> >running MSDOS and kermit and a screen reader. If you get the
> >kermit terminal emulator going, the speech synthesizer will
> >chatter away if new stuff comes in to the screen.
> >
> >         If the Mac can't do that, it will be a bit of a problem.
> >If it can, then it is time to proceed. I have access to a Mac
> >right now, but a read of the VoiceOver documentation didn't tell
> >me anything directly. When you just bring up voiceover, it will
> >let a whole screen of stuff come in and then read you the bottom
> >line. That is good sometimes, but other times we want to hear
> >the whole spew.
> >
> >Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK
> >Systems Engineer
> >OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >No virus found in this incoming message.
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> >Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.12/979 - Release Date: 
> >8/29/2007
> >8:21 PM
>
> Louis Kim Kline
> A.R.S. K2LKK
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