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I think I remember this right.
If you have a long path to ground,
Use a piece of coax.  Place a .01 mfd capacitor between the shield and
center conductor at the ground rod.  Connect the rod to the center
conductor.
I think you only connect the center conductor to the station common ground.
Not exactly sure about the top connection.
This shields the ground wire, and prevents it from becoming a radiator.


-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Bob Tinney
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 8:38 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: RFI question

Tom,

Either your long ground wire is causing a radiating ground loop or you've
got RF coming back down the shield of your coax.  You could try a coax choke
at the antenna or try changing the length of your ground wire or try tuning
it, or try just disconnecting it

Bob, K8LR, [log in to unmask]

On 2/19/2016 11:43 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
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> Hello, everyone.
>
>   
>
> I know I'm going to get a lot of different opinions on this question, 
> but here goes:
>
>   
>
> I have been noticing lately that my RFI problems seem to be getting 
> worse here at the home QTH.
>
>   
>
> In particular, they seem worse when I'm on CW, and appear on different 
> bands to different degrees.  The fact that the problems seem worse on 
> CW does not surprise me, due to the nature of that mode in comparison 
> to SSB, for example.
>
>   
>
> What does baffle me is that the problems seem to be getting worse in 
> general.
>
>   
>
> For example, when I was playing around a bit in the ARRL International 
> DX CW contest for an hour or so tonight, I tried going back to a few 
> stations with approx. 500 watts, using my MFJ998 and ALS600 with the 
> TS590, and I set off the carbon monoxide detector downstairs on the 
> main floor of our house.  On another occasion earlier in the month, I 
> was running 100 watts on CW on 160 meters, and I tripped one of the 
> circuit breakers in our house, and caused my wife problems when she was
using her laptop computer in another room.
>
>   
>
> I have checked the common ground point on my MFJ feed-through panel, 
> and the ground cables for my TS590, MFJ998, and ALS600.  All seem to 
> be solid, at least here in the shack.  The common ground point on the 
> MFJ feed-through panel has a cable outside my second-floor shack 
> window that runs down to a copper ground rod that is connected to the 
> ground on the power box to the house.
>
>   
>
> I have not checked the outside ground connections at the ground rod, 
> and may try to do that tomorrow.
>
>   
>
> My initial thinking is that RF is either coming through the house 
> electrical lines, through our cable modem and router, or both.
>
>   
>
> I am planning on investing in some RF chokes as Steve (KW3A) has 
> suggested, and possibly one or two Buxcom Line Isolators like Butch 
> uses, but am wondering if I'm missing something obvious that I should
check into first.
>
>   
>
> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>
>   
>
> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>
>   
>
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> class=3DMsoNormal>Hello, = everyone.<o:p></o:p></p><p 
> class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal>I know 
> I&#8217;m going to get a lot of different = opinions on this question, 
> but here goes:<o:p></o:p></p><p = 
> class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I have 
> been = noticing lately that my RFI problems seem to be getting worse 
> here at = the home QTH.<o:p></o:p></p><p 
> class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal>In 
> particular, they seem worse when I&#8217;m on CW, = and appear on 
> different bands to different degrees.&nbsp; The fact that = the 
> problems seem worse on CW does not surprise me, due to the nature of = 
> that mode in comparison to SSB, for example.<o:p></o:p></p><p = 
> class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>What does 
> = baffle me is that the problems seem to be getting worse in = 
> general.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p = 
> class=3DMsoNormal>For example, when I was playing around a bit in the 
> = ARRL International DX CW contest for an hour or so tonight, I tried 
> = going back to a few stations with approx. 500 watts, using my MFJ998 
> and =
> ALS600 with the TS590, and I set off the carbon monoxide detector = 
> downstairs on the main floor of our house.&nbsp; On another occasion = 
> earlier in the month, I was running 100 watts on CW on 160 meters, and 
> I = tripped one of the circuit breakers in our house, and caused my 
> wife = problems when she was using her laptop computer in another = 
> room.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p = 
> class=3DMsoNormal>I have checked the common ground point on my MFJ = 
> feed-through panel, and the ground cables for my TS590, MFJ998, and = 
> ALS600.&nbsp; All seem to be solid, at least here in the shack.&nbsp; 
> = The common ground point on the MFJ feed-through panel has a cable = 
> outside my second-floor shack window that runs down to a copper ground 
> = rod that is connected to the ground on the power box to the = 
> house.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p = 
> class=3DMsoNormal>I have not checked the outside ground connections at 
> = the ground rod, and may try to do that tomorrow.<o:p></o:p></p><p = 
> class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>My initial 
> = thinking is that RF is either coming through the house electrical 
> lines, = through our cable modem and router, or both.<o:p></o:p></p><p 
> = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I am = 
> planning on investing in some RF chokes as Steve (KW3A) has suggested, 
> = and possibly one or two Buxcom Line Isolators like Butch uses, but 
> am = wondering if I&#8217;m missing something obvious that I should 
> check = into first.<o:p></o:p></p><p 
> class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal>Any 
> thoughts would be appreciated.<o:p></o:p></p><p = 
> class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Tom 
> Behler: = KB8TYJ<o:p></o:p></p><p = 
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