on the
www.IRLP.net
sight there is a listing of repeaters and locations that have IRLP nodes.
It gives repeater/link call sign, frequency, tone, access codes and status, 
that is, weather they are working or down.
I thought there was one like that on the echolink sight as well, but now 
that I think of it, that would be nearly impossible to keep current.
Echolink, unlike IRLP, is not standardized or regulated through a server or 
group of people.
Anyone can interface their radio with the computer to use echolink, whereas, 
an IRLP node must be registered and have user access to the IRLP servers.
Also, there is the echolink users that only use computer to computer aspects 
of the software.
Anyone can randomly, and legally setup an echolink node on any repeater by 
using say a kenwood TM V71 without even needing an external interface.
The repeater op might not like it, but there's nothing legally he/she can do 
about it as long as the link isn't causing spirious emitions or causing 
intentional interpherence to repeater communications.
So many repeater ops think their machines are their castle and that they 
make the regs concerning their machines..but essentially, it is just a more 
complex transceiver that, as long as used only by amateurs, is completely 
public.
As long as an amateur meets FCC or IC criteria, he/she can operate on any 
ham frequency he/she is allowed to by license, even if that frequency is the 
input of a repeater.
Frequency allocations in the US and canada, other than band edges, are 
totally self policed or settup by volunteers to help organize 
communications.  They are not entrenched in legislation or regulation.
You can, quite legally, use SSB on a repeater input frequency.  As long as 
you aren't intentionally preventing others from communicating on that 
particular frequency, then your fine.
If a repeater input happens to be there, and your SSB signal is opening the 
transmitter of the repeater, then it is actually, legally, the repeater ops 
responsibility to shut the repeater down, not prevent you from transmitting 
a legal mode on a legal frequency.
This is why there are ethics, and standard amateur operating procedures.
You aren't in personal control of anything beyond the frequency you are 
transmitting on.  An operator of an amateur transmitter can only control 
interpherence or communications on the frequency, or frequencies, he is 
transmitting on at one time.
If your transmition is being re transmitted, or repeated by another operator 
on another frequency, well, that is his responsibility by the same nature 
that you are responsible for the frequency you are on.
again, legality and regulations are the letter of the law, and then there 
are ethics and good operating procedure.
I appologize for my digression away from the original question lol.

73
Colin, V A6BKX
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "tom behler" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:04 PM
Subject: anyone know how to find repeaters with either echolink or irlp in a 
given area?


> Hi, all.
>
> Does anyone know how to find repeaters with either echo-link or irlp
> capability in a given area?
>
> I tried to find this info on the echolink.org web site, but had no luck.
>
> I thought it might be fun to try contacting some of my friends from 
> Michigan
> while I'm visiting my son and his family in the St. Louis, MO area this
> coming week.
>
> I will just have my THF6A with me for the trip.
>
> 73 from Tom Behler:  KB8TYJ