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Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 29 Feb 2016 14:05:42 -0700
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Butch,

I somehow overlooked the subscription info but I figured I best keep one 
computer on this blind-hams lists for people trying to find everybody else.

Phil.
K0NX





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Butch Bussen" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: List Posting Garbage


>I don't know either.  I'll likely not subscribe to a new list.  It
> becomes a problem, which list to post to, who does and doesn't move and
> 73
> Butch
> WA0VJR
> Node 3148
> Wallace, ks.
>
>
> so forth.  yech!!!  On Mon, 29 Feb 2016, Steve Forst wrote:
>
>> We went through this a number of years ago.  After some never ending off
>> topic  threads, someone started a new list just for ham topics.
>>
>>    Soon after, someone (who I will call person A) posted an off topic
>> message to the new list which  brought equally off topic replies from
>> persons B through F.
>>
>> This upset the list owner so much that he publicly jumped all over
>> person A with both feet, causing person A to unsubscribe from the new
>> list.    The new list owner was so mad that he left his own list, and it
>> languishes in the cyber backwaters until this day.
>>
>> I don't want to go through that again, and I really don't want to belong
>> to 2 lists, with the inevitable double postings.
>>
>> I don't know what the answer is,and I'm not against a new list,  but
>> I'll wait and see  what direction things move.
>>
>>
>> 73, Steve KW3A
>> On 2/29/2016 9:21 AM, Richard B. McDonald wrote:
>>> Hi All!
>>>
>>> Generally, I agree with others that 1) the list admin should be given a
>>> reasonable amount of time to fix these pesky problems but that 2) if 
>>> these
>>> problems cannot be or do not get fixed then the list should move.  The 
>>> list
>>> admin should participate in a change-over, if that becomes necessary.  A
>>> blanket email from him to the list alerting all to a change-over could 
>>> be
>>> sent and then the entire data base of subscribers uploaded into the new
>>> list-serve - none of this requires positive consent by each subscriber.
>>>
>>> In fact, many here may have noticed that the JAWS user list recently did
>>> exactly this.  And, I believe the JAWS user list was previously on the 
>>> same
>>> list serve that this list is presently on; and that it changed over to 
>>> its
>>> current, new list serve because of administrative problems with that
>>> previous (i.e., this) list serve akin to the problems we see here and 
>>> now.
>>>
>>> All that said, I seriously doubt that the problems we are having on this
>>> list are beyond repair.  It does, however, require a bit of focused,
>>> knowledgeable attention.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Richard KK6MRH
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: For blind ham radio operators 
>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>> On Behalf Of Steve
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 9:05 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: List Posting Garbage
>>>
>>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>>>
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>>> Bob, I  have noticed since Phil said his friend was going to help with 
>>> how
>>> the list is configured, that the people posting with a lot of extraneous
>>> headers and characters has worsened.
>>>
>>> If people are interested, I'd be glad to set up this list on a different
>>> group server that is stable.  Since the ListAdmin of this list isn't 
>>> really
>>> active, and therefore, since I don't have email addresses for the 
>>> members,
>>> everyone would have to move their on their own volition.
>>>
>>> I've kind of thought about doing this for quite awhile, but didn't see 
>>> any
>>> sense in duplicating the list.  But, since these issues keep festering 
>>> and
>>> apparently won't be corrected, I'm leaning toward creating a list if 
>>> people
>>> are interested.
>>>
>>> Steve, K8SP
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Bob Martin
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 5:09 PM
>>> Subject: My Earlier Posting Regarding ARRL ARES Newsletter
>>>
>>>
>>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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>>> I just looked at it and it is a mess; MINE format or something like =
>>> that.  Have no idea how that happened as I don=E2=80=99t thing I have =
>>> changed any settings lately. Does anyone have a clue. Several months =
>>> ago, I did make a font change to eliminate lots of equal signs in my =
>>> email.
>>> 73:
>>> Bob Martin
>>>
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>>> =
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>>> have changed any=20
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>>> <DIV><FONT color=3D#08000a>Steve, K8SP</FONT></DIV>
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>>> <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
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>>> href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]
>>> RG</A>=20
>>> </DIV>
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