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Lou Kline <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
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It's what happens when regulation is being done by political lackeys 
instead of people who actually know something about communications.

73, de Lou K2LKK



At 06:17 PM 8/25/2007 +0100, you wrote:
>I agree with clear 40m sooner the better. But not on digital the little box
>that is used to send a signal to a cable company will produce RF just some
>0s and 1s no power needed at all however a digital transmitter will produce
>RF though perhaps not as much as a analogue. The problem is you either get a
>signal or you don't people on the fringe of a tv area may not get anything
>on digital at all. As to radio on fm fine though it is not FM but digital
>different on AM apart from interference also what happens when you get sky
>wave and ground wave fading, answer complete lose digital signals again fine
>in the day on ground wave only but come night everyone loses. Have the FCC
>lost the plot here.
>
>mike
>amature call M0DMD
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>On Behalf Of T Behler
>Sent: 25 August 2007 18:01
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: FCC aproves HD A M broadcasting 24 hours a day
>
>     Very interesting, Steve.
>
>This isn't quite related to our current topic, but just popped into my head
>here.
>
>Since short-wave stations are finding it more and more costly to broadcast
>their signals via regular RF paths, won't it be great when, in 2009, 40
>meters supposedly will be free of SWL signals?
>
>I'm looking forward to that greatly.
>
>73 from Tom Behler:  KB8TYJ
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 11:33 PM
>Subject: Re: FCC aproves HD A M broadcasting 24 hours a day
>
>
> > Tom,
> >
> > Ironically, the low power stations who were supposed to be helped by
> > allowing them to run all night don't even reap the benefits.  In our area,
> > you can't even hear some of the 500 watt stations (which are supposed to
> > have local coverage) at night because of all the QRM underneath them.
> > Said
> > QRM is being caused by stations in other areas which probably can't be
> > heard
> > either in the areas they're supposed to cover.  I doubt they'll ever do
> > it,
> > but a lot of this would get fixed if the FCC were to implement the idea of
> > "clear channel" as it was in the old days.
> >
> > You raise a good point about streaming on line, which has changed the
> > whole
> > face of AM radio.  It takes a lot less energy to stream a radio station
> > than
> > it does to run a 50,000 watt transmitter.  It also takes a lot less space.
> > When I lived in Connecticut, a friend of mine was Chief Engineer at one of
> > the local TV stations.  He took me on a tour of the transmitter site
> > which,
> > by the way, was fascinating.  After showing me the four final tubes of the
> > transmitter, each of which was four feet long, water cooled, and the
> > diameter of a small gas water heater, he showed me the box they use to
> > feed
> > the cable companies.  It was about the size of a CD player.  Pretty
> > amazing
> > when you consider that their entire transmitter installation cost about
> > $1500 a month just for the electricity, and served only 30% of their
> > audience.  The other 70% was served by that cute little box the size of a
> > CD
> > player.  Look how many shortwave stations have given up broadcasting
> > because
> > it's just not cost effective to run those 100KW transmitters.  Ultimately,
> > all this stuff boils down to how much it costs, and going digital is
> > cheaper
> > and much more efficient in the long run.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "T Behler" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 14:49
> > Subject: Re: FCC aproves HD A M broadcasting 24 hours a day
> >
> >
> >>    I hear you, Steve.
> >>
> >> And, you're right.
> >>
> >> A m  DXING isn't what it used to be.  For example, here in Michigan, say
> >> 15
> >> years ago, I used to be able to get WBZ in Boston every night, unless
> >> conditions were very very poor.
> >>
> >> Now, I usually have to wait till the Fall or Winter, and even then, it's
> >> questionable.
> >>
> >> The same can be said for many of the New York stations, like WABC, WOR,
> >> and
> >> WCBS, as well as Philadelphia stations like KYW and WPHT.
> >>
> >> And, being from the east coast myself, I really miss that.
> >>
> >> Of course, you can now get most of them streaming "on line", but, in my
> >> opinion, it's not quite the same.
> >>
> >> 73 from Tom Behler:  KB8TYJ
> >
>
>
>
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Louis Kim Kline
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