John,

Good point about the direct connection to a circuit board.  Like you,
I prefer the 8-pin connectors.  I don't fully trust the contacts on
the RJ45s.  From what I heard, the idea was supposed to be that all
RJ45 connectors would be standardized, but I don't know if they really are.

Steve

On Monday 10/10/05 17:27 John Miller wrote:
>actually, if you put the jacks side by site, they're not that much smaller,
>a little but not over all that much, the difference though, is the round
>connectors you solder wires to the back direct where as the other ones,
>they're made to be soldered right to a circuit board, and in that, I guess
>they save room there but I really like the old style 8 pin connectors much
>better.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 1:06 PM
>Subject: Re: TS-480 Questions
>
>
>John,
>
>I don't know if they're cheaper, but they're a lot smaller than the
>8-pin connectors.  I think size is the important issue in new
>radios.  There's so much stuff crammed in to a very small space, and
>even if it looks like there might be room on the front panel, there's
>probably none behind it.
>
>Steve
>
>On Monday 10/10/05 11:59 John Miller wrote:
> >they'll all be that modular connector in time, vhf/uhf has been that way as
> >long as I've been in the hobby for the most part, I don't like them but I
> >expect all radios across the board will have them in time. Must be cheaper.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Butch Bussen" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 11:55 AM
> >Subject: Re: TS-480 Questions
> >
> >
> >IThe radio comes with just a stock hand mike, up down buttons.  I don't
> >know about the ts50, but the connecter is different from all of my other
> >Kenwood radios, 440, 690, 850, 130--which all used the same connecter.
> >Sadly, this has changed on the 480.
> >73s
> >Butch Bussen
> >wa0vjr