Well people do the same thing on repeaters to they key them up with out 
saying anything and then there gone.
So with anything you do you will have some kind of problem.
So maybe it's best to have a problem
Thanks 73 Matt ka0pqw
On 3/16/2014 2:56 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
> The biggest problem I have with computer connects are the drive-bys.=20
>
> That is, people who connect for 5-30 seconds,
> don=92t say anything, then disconnect.
>
> It=92s a bit annoying.
>
> The biggest problem I have with RF connects
> are that a lot of Echolink system operators
> run sloppy systems.=20
>
> They either are linking a radio sitting on a repeater that doesn=92t
> have any CTCSS squelch, or if it does,
> it=92s on all the time. So all the courtesy tones,
> tails, ID=92s, and crap also come through.
> The only thing that should come through a properly configured
> link are the voices of the operators on the repeater.
> If the repeater ID=92s during the transmission, OK, but I don=92t want
> to hear your repeater key up my repeater just to ID.
> I also don=92t need to hear your courtesy tones
> and three-second tails tying up the whole system for everyone else.=20
>
> It really makes doing very much of anything really difficult.
>
> So if you can=92t put Echolink directly on your controller, so it has
> zero hang time and doesn=92t send out RF iD=92s over the Internet,
> be sure that the repeater it is tuned to on the RF side
> has properly configured CTCSS squelch, which drops with the voice
> transmission drop and isn=92t active for ID=92s.=20
>
> Those are, IMO, the two things that really give
> Echolink its reputation. Well, those and poorly adjusted
> audio that the sysops do not or cannot fix.=20
>
> With all that said, though, Matt, I agree with you.
>
> Vy 73,
> Buddy, KB5ELV
>
> On Mar 16, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Matt Arthur <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>> Well i have to say i think that's a bad way of thinking.
>> It doesn't madder how you get on wetther it's with a computer or phone =
> or=20
>> radio.
>> You still can come out on rf.
>> last time i checked my repeaters are in the ham band.
>> I don't and never will understand being that closed minded.
>> but you can do what ever you want.
>> Thanks 73 Matt ka0pqw----- Original Message -----=20
>> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:09 AM
>> Subject: Re: my intro: and help with echo link
>> =20
>> =20
>>> Very very sadly my repeater has it on it too but I'm doing it right, =
> RF
>>> connects only. I made promises to the group I put the repeater up for =
> that
>>> I'd have it on IRLP and then ran in to problems affording the IRLP =
> board=20
>>> so
>>> grabbed a junk computer I used to use for radio activities and set it =
> up
>>> this way for now though I have a few bugs to work out. It works I =
> just=20
>>> think
>>> there's a sound card loop back issue but it does work. Once I get =
> IRLP on=20
>>> it
>>> it will be used to mostly link the repeater in to the local 900 MHz=20=
>>> network.
>>> Right now the most activity is the New England network for sky warn =
> events
>>> and what not. While it's running like this I will never allow =
> computer=20
>>> users
>>> to connect because that is my problem with that whole program but if=20=
>>> someone
>>> who cares enough about radio to actually get on the air wants to try =
> to
>>> connect feel free. I can't guaranty I'll be around but maybe someone =
> will.
>>> there are still some bugs, maybe have to turn the beam a little, the =
> sound
>>> card loop back issue and yes the play back line in port is muted to =
> the
>>> speaker output. I think it's a 13 year old mother board's onboard =
> sound=20
>>> card
>>> with a ton of processor noise. If I ever get ambitious I'll get an=20
>>> external
>>> sound card on it and that should fix it I think. I just don't have =
> the=20
>>> time
>>> or a ton of interest so it's not on the front burner, I'd say if it's =
> not
>>> done by the time it warms up outside it won't get done until next =
> winter=20
>>> and
>>> if I don't have the IRLP board by then I'll probably scrap the whole=20=
>>> project
>>> and let the repeater run on it's own. I promised them I'd have the =
> IRLP on
>>> it a year ago but can't afford the board so had to do something I =
> guess to
>>> stop the questions.
>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>> From: "Matt Arthur" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 3:50 AM
>>> Subject: Re: my intro: and help with echo link
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>> By defalt when you hit the space bar then it should be transmitting.
>>>> When you hit it again it then should go to receive. Make sure you =
> have
>>>> port
>>>> forwarding if you going through a router.
>>>> I am not very good with port forwarding but i am sure we can find =
> some=20
>>>> one
>>>> to help.
>>>> You shouldn't have much ptrouble getting echo link going.
>>>> I have echo link on my repeater and very much enjoy having it. be =
> sure to
>>>> connect to the handi  ham confrence.
>>>> every one is welcome and we would be glad to have you on even if =
> your not
>>>> a
>>>> member.
>>>> all are welcome.
>>>> We have dayly nets at 11am central time 12 noon your time.
>>>> We also have a Wednesday evening net at 7 pm central 8 pm your time.
>>>> Also a tech net on Thursday evenings 7 pm central
>>>> Good luck with the general and if i can be of more help let me know.
>>>> Thanks 73 Matt ka0pqw
>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>>> From: "scott v" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 7:45 PM
>>>> Subject: my intro: and help with echo link
>>>> =20
>>>> =20
>>>>> Hello.
>>>>> My name is Scott and my call sign is kb0clz.
>>>>> I did not change it when i moved here from Nebraska to =
> Pennsylvania.
>>>>> As soon as i can get 12 more dollars, i am going to renew my =
> membership
>>>>> with handi hams and try to study again for my general ticket.
>>>>> I tried before but i lost interest, but i think i'm ready for it =
> now.
>>>>> =20
>>>>> My question/s have to do with using echo link.
>>>>> =20
>>>>> For starters when trying to connect to the test server and talk i
>>>>> either got white noise or nothing at all echoed back to me.
>>>>> Must i press the space bar and hold it while transmitting, or, can =
> i
>>>>> press it once to talk and again to stop transmitting?
>>>>> I think that is all for now.
>>>>> later
>>>>> 73's
>>>>> scott
>>>>> kb0clz
>>>>> =20
>>>>> --=20
>>>>> email and facebook
>>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>> website
>>>>> www.samobile.net/users/scottv=20