A loop will usually show a short as it does make a full loop, I'm tending to 
wonder about your tuner, As was said, the likelihood of both antennas going 
at once, unless  something got them directly and I'd think you'd know if it 
did, it's just not all that likely.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Junior Lolley" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: antennas out of service


> Colin, I tried connecting the antenna feed lines directly to the radio.
> I did both antennas and got receive off both antennas.
> In fact both antennas were receiving great.
> I do get receive  off of both antennas while connected to the tuner.
> I am beginning to think the tuner went south on me.
> Now on the coax for the loop when I put the continuity meter it does show 
> a
> short somewhere.
> Now the g5rv shows no short.
> I am using a LDG AT250 PRO AUTO TUNER.
> i DIDN'T HAVE ANY OF THE ANTENNAS CONNECTED UP WITH THE BAD WEATHER GOING
> ON.
> I have a short jumper going from the 706 mark II g to the tuner.
> The continuity meter shows no short in the jumper.
> Thanks for all of the ideas.
>
>
> Junior Lolley KG4itd
> Liberty County E. C.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of colin McDonald
> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 6:24 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: antennas out of service
>
> junior:
> I don't know your set up well enough, but try connecting the coax feed 
> lines
>
> coming directly from the antennas, directly to the radio and see if you 
> can
> at least get a noise level.
> sounds like there is an issue with the tuner or parts there of.
> It's pretty huge odds that both antennas failed at the same time...unless
> you did get lightening and it blew out the tuner or something.
> though I doubt that at this point.
> Do you get any noise level right now with the original set up? or is there
> no noise, no receive etc?
> If that is the case, try connecting the antenna or antennas directly to 
> the
> radio and see if you get noise.  If you do, then you'll know it is 
> something
>
> in the chain between the radio and the antenna feed lines.
> 73
> Colin, V A6BKX
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Junior Lolley" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 4:02 PM
> Subject: Re: antennas out of service
>
>
>> John, using your suggestion I replaced the jumper with an almost brand 
>> new
>> one no joy.
>> I don't have an antenna switch.
>> The tuner has a button on it to switch from one antenna to the other.
>> I put the continuity meter on the loop coax there is a short somewhere
>> either on the short piece of coax or the ladder line.
>> I sure can't climb that tower due to medical restrictions.
>> I am glad you are coming up with some suggestions.
>> Thanks very much John.
>>
>>
>> Junior Lolley KG4itd
>> Liberty County E. C.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators 
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of John Miller
>> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 5:39 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: antennas out of service
>>
>> It must be a jumper, or antenna switch if you have that, unless somehow
>> both
>>
>> antennas came down, but if they're still up, it's got to be something
>> close
>> to the radio I'd think, make sure to check everything, jumper from the
>> radio
>>
>> to the tuner, everything. The radio's just rolling back on power like a
>> bad
>> SWR? that's almost got to be something inside that both use, jumpers,
>> something with the tuner, maybe a bad connection, something.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Junior Lolley" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 5:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: antennas out of service
>>
>>
>>> John, thanks for the idea but each antenna has a separate coax for it.
>>> I will try another jumper.
>>> Any ideas is appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>> Junior Lolley KG4itd
>>> Liberty County E. C.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: For blind ham radio operators
>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>> On Behalf Of John Miller
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 5:18 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: antennas out of service
>>>
>>> Wow, both of them? sounds like a bad jumper or some coax that's common 
>>> to
>>> the 2 antennas.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Junior Lolley" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 5:12 PM
>>> Subject: antennas out of service
>>>
>>>
>>>>I don't know what happened yet but both the loop and the g5rv are not
>>>> working.
>>>> I disconnected them last night because of the possibility of bad
>>>> weather.
>>>> I hooked them up this morning no joy.
>>>> Every time I try to tune either antenna the 706 mark II g goes into
>>>> shutdown.
>>>> I will catch you when and if I get them working again.
>>>> 73 to all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Junior Lolley KG4itd
>>>> Liberty County E. C.