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That has happened before if you have rig ground hooked up to your electrical 
common ground.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: Ground Falt Circuit Interupt Breaker Sensativity to RF


>I have seen that before in a cottage I rented on the beach one summer. I
> don't know the cause for it, I finally tried several other outlets and
> finally found one that didn't cause that but never did find the cause 
> since
> the house wasn't mine. I'm in an old house now with no GFI outlets or
> breakers though to keep with code, as I replace them I will probably go 
> that
> way over time.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Michael Ryan" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 8:49 AM
> Subject: Ground Falt Circuit Interupt Breaker Sensativity to RF
>
>
>> Hi all:
>>
>> Up here in Canada, according to the electrical code, circuit breakers for
>> bedrooms have to be a ground fault circuit interrupt type (GFCI).
>> They're meant to trip quick enough to prevent shock to children when they
>> stick there fingers and other objects in the outlet or accidents to
>> persons using an Electric blanket or waterbeds and so on.
>> Well when we had our cottage wired, my Uncle in law, who did the
>> electrical, didn't listen to me with regards to wiring up the spare room
>> as a radio room but as a spare bedroom and basically put the 2 outlets on
>> the master's outlets and connected them all up to the GFCI breaker in the
>> Panel.
>> Each time I'd key my radio on this breaker, I'd trip it and this would
>> occur on the antenna and not on the dummy load. It got to the point where
>> I had to have the connection changed.
>> We now have the bedrooms on a non GFCI and the GFCI hooked up to the
>> dining room outlet which isn't used and is in fact off.
>> However, when turned on, this breaker would still trip when I'd transmit
>> on my antenna and not on the dl. So at the end of the day, we just have 
>> it
>> turned off.
>> I'm wondering if my electrical's ground wires could be the length of an
>> antenna and are in fact acting like a receive antenna and is causing that
>> breaker to trip? How would it behave differently if the antenna was a 
>> wire
>> antenna at 45 feet?
>> My vertical is probably 40 feet or so away from the electrical grounding
>> system but is on the same side.  . I have all my equipment properly
>> grounded into 3 5 foot ground rods, driven down to there tops outside the
>> shack.
>> Funny though, plug an electrical appliance such as a toaster into one of
>> the outlets on the GFCI, it won't trip. Even though the toaster is an 
>> 800W
>> appliance. My FT-102 only draws 5 amps and makes 200W and will cause this
>> breaker to trip almost immediately.
>>
>> 73:
>> Mike VO1AX 

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