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Butch Bussen <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 29 Feb 2016 12:23:00 -0800
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I don't know either.  I'll likely not subscribe to a new list.  It 
becomes a problem, which list to post to, who does and doesn't move and 
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


so forth.  yech!!!  On Mon, 29 Feb 2016, Steve Forst wrote:

> We went through this a number of years ago.  After some never ending off
> topic  threads, someone started a new list just for ham topics.
>
>    Soon after, someone (who I will call person A) posted an off topic
> message to the new list which  brought equally off topic replies from
> persons B through F.
>
> This upset the list owner so much that he publicly jumped all over
> person A with both feet, causing person A to unsubscribe from the new
> list.    The new list owner was so mad that he left his own list, and it
> languishes in the cyber backwaters until this day.
>
> I don't want to go through that again, and I really don't want to belong
> to 2 lists, with the inevitable double postings.
>
> I don't know what the answer is,and I'm not against a new list,  but
> I'll wait and see  what direction things move.
>
>
> 73, Steve KW3A
> On 2/29/2016 9:21 AM, Richard B. McDonald wrote:
>> Hi All!
>>
>> Generally, I agree with others that 1) the list admin should be given a
>> reasonable amount of time to fix these pesky problems but that 2) if these
>> problems cannot be or do not get fixed then the list should move.  The list
>> admin should participate in a change-over, if that becomes necessary.  A
>> blanket email from him to the list alerting all to a change-over could be
>> sent and then the entire data base of subscribers uploaded into the new
>> list-serve - none of this requires positive consent by each subscriber.
>>
>> In fact, many here may have noticed that the JAWS user list recently did
>> exactly this.  And, I believe the JAWS user list was previously on the same
>> list serve that this list is presently on; and that it changed over to its
>> current, new list serve because of administrative problems with that
>> previous (i.e., this) list serve akin to the problems we see here and now.
>>
>> All that said, I seriously doubt that the problems we are having on this
>> list are beyond repair.  It does, however, require a bit of focused,
>> knowledgeable attention.
>>
>> 73,
>> Richard KK6MRH
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Steve
>> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 9:05 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: List Posting Garbage
>>
>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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>> Bob, I  have noticed since Phil said his friend was going to help with how
>> the list is configured, that the people posting with a lot of extraneous
>> headers and characters has worsened.
>>
>> If people are interested, I'd be glad to set up this list on a different
>> group server that is stable.  Since the ListAdmin of this list isn't really
>> active, and therefore, since I don't have email addresses for the members,
>> everyone would have to move their on their own volition.
>>
>> I've kind of thought about doing this for quite awhile, but didn't see any
>> sense in duplicating the list.  But, since these issues keep festering and
>> apparently won't be corrected, I'm leaning toward creating a list if people
>> are interested.
>>
>> Steve, K8SP
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Bob Martin
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 5:09 PM
>> Subject: My Earlier Posting Regarding ARRL ARES Newsletter
>>
>>
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>> I just looked at it and it is a mess; MINE format or something like =
>> that.  Have no idea how that happened as I don=E2=80=99t thing I have =
>> changed any settings lately. Does anyone have a clue. Several months =
>> ago, I did make a font change to eliminate lots of equal signs in my =
>> email.
>> 73:
>> Bob Martin
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>> <DIV>Bob Martin</DIV>
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>> <DIV><FONT color=3D#08000a></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT color=3D#08000a>Steve, K8SP</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
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>> RG</A>=20
>> </DIV>
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