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Pat Byrne <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 29 Feb 2016 19:51:20 -0600
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But we're doing positive about it Chuck!
Pat, K9JAUAt 06:14 PM 2/29/2016, you wrote:
>Wow, we're just like the republican party, falling apart.  Sorry guys, I
>couldn't resist.
>
>Chuck wa8vmo
>
>--------------------------------------------------
>From: "Butch Bussen" <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 3:23 PM
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: List Posting Garbage
>
> > I don't know either.  I'll likely not subscribe to a new list.  It
> > becomes a problem, which list to post to, who does and doesn't move and
> > 73
> > Butch
> > WA0VJR
> > Node 3148
> > Wallace, ks.
> >
> >
> > so forth.  yech!!!  On Mon, 29 Feb 2016, Steve Forst wrote:
> >
> >> We went through this a number of years ago.  After some never ending off
> >> topic  threads, someone started a new list just for ham topics.
> >>
> >>    Soon after, someone (who I will call person A) posted an off topic
> >> message to the new list which  brought equally off topic replies from
> >> persons B through F.
> >>
> >> This upset the list owner so much that he publicly jumped all over
> >> person A with both feet, causing person A to unsubscribe from the new
> >> list.    The new list owner was so mad that he left his own list, and it
> >> languishes in the cyber backwaters until this day.
> >>
> >> I don't want to go through that again, and I really don't want to belong
> >> to 2 lists, with the inevitable double postings.
> >>
> >> I don't know what the answer is,and I'm not against a new list,  but
> >> I'll wait and see  what direction things move.
> >>
> >>
> >> 73, Steve KW3A
> >> On 2/29/2016 9:21 AM, Richard B. McDonald wrote:
> >>> Hi All!
> >>>
> >>> Generally, I agree with others that 1) the list admin should be given a
> >>> reasonable amount of time to fix these pesky problems but that 2) if
> >>> these
> >>> problems cannot be or do not get fixed then the list should move.  The
> >>> list
> >>> admin should participate in a change-over, if that becomes necessary.  A
> >>> blanket email from him to the list alerting all to a change-over could
> >>> be
> >>> sent and then the entire data base of subscribers uploaded into the new
> >>> list-serve - none of this requires positive consent by each subscriber.
> >>>
> >>> In fact, many here may have noticed that the JAWS user list recently did
> >>> exactly this.  And, I believe the JAWS user list was previously on the
> >>> same
> >>> list serve that this list is presently on; and that it changed over to
> >>> its
> >>> current, new list serve because of administrative problems with that
> >>> previous (i.e., this) list serve akin to the problems we see here and
> >>> now.
> >>>
> >>> All that said, I seriously doubt that the problems we are having on this
> >>> list are beyond repair.  It does, however, require a bit of focused,
> >>> knowledgeable attention.
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>> Richard KK6MRH
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: For blind ham radio operators
> >>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> >>> On Behalf Of Steve
> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 9:05 PM
> >>> To: [log in to unmask]
> >>> Subject: List Posting Garbage
> >>>
> >>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> >>>
> >>> ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01D17284.E6876EE0
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain;
> >>> charset="Windows-1252"
> >>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >>>
> >>> Bob, I  have noticed since Phil said his friend was going to help with
> >>> how
> >>> the list is configured, that the people posting with a lot of extraneous
> >>> headers and characters has worsened.
> >>>
> >>> If people are interested, I'd be glad to set up this list on a different
> >>> group server that is stable.  Since the ListAdmin of this list isn't
> >>> really
> >>> active, and therefore, since I don't have email addresses for the
> >>> members,
> >>> everyone would have to move their on their own volition.
> >>>
> >>> I've kind of thought about doing this for quite awhile, but didn't see
> >>> any
> >>> sense in duplicating the list.  But, since these issues keep festering
> >>> and
> >>> apparently won't be corrected, I'm leaning toward creating a list if
> >>> people
> >>> are interested.
> >>>
> >>> Steve, K8SP
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: Bob Martin
> >>> To: [log in to unmask]
> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 5:09 PM
> >>> Subject: My Earlier Posting Regarding ARRL ARES Newsletter
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> >>>
> >>> ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01D1724A.D59D0980
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain;
> >>> charset="utf-8"
> >>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >>>
> >>> I just looked at it and it is a mess; MINE format or something like =
> >>> that.  Have no idea how that happened as I don=E2=80=99t thing I have =
> >>> changed any settings lately. Does anyone have a clue. Several months =
> >>> ago, I did make a font change to eliminate lots of equal signs in my =
> >>> email.
> >>> 73:
> >>> Bob Martin
> >>>
> >>> ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01D1724A.D59D0980
> >>> Content-Type: text/html;
> >>> charset="utf-8"
> >>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >>>
> >>> <HTML><HEAD></HEAD>
> >>> <BODY dir=3Dltr>
> >>> <DIV dir=3Dltr>
> >>> <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">
> >>> <DIV>I just looked at it and it is a mess; MINE format or something like
> >>> =
> >>>
> >>> that.&nbsp; Have no idea how that happened as I don=E2=80=99t thing I =
> >>> have changed any=20
> >>> settings lately. Does anyone have a clue. Several months ago, I did make
> >>> =
> >>> a font=20
> >>> change to eliminate lots of equal signs in my email.</DIV>
> >>> <DIV>73:</DIV>
> >>> <DIV>Bob Martin</DIV>
> >>> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> >>>
> >>> ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01D1724A.D59D0980--
> >>>
> >>> ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01D17284.E6876EE0
> >>> Content-Type: text/html;
> >>> charset="Windows-1252"
> >>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >>>
> >>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> >>> <HTML><HEAD>
> >>> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dwindows-1252" =
> >>> http-equiv=3DContent-Type>
> >>> <META name=3DGENERATOR content=3D"MSHTML 11.00.9600.18125">
> >>> <STYLE></STYLE>
> >>> </HEAD>
> >>> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> >>> <DIV><FONT color=3D#08000a size=3D2>Bob, I&nbsp; have noticed since Phil
> >>> =
> >>> said his=20
> >>> friend was going to help with how the list is configured, that the =
> >>> people=20
> >>> posting with a lot of extraneous headers and characters has=20
> >>> worsened.</FONT></DIV>
> >>> <DIV><FONT color=3D#08000a></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> >>> <DIV><FONT color=3D#08000a>If people are interested, I'd be glad to set
> >>> =
> >>> up this=20
> >>> list on a different group server that is stable.&nbsp; Since the =
> >>> ListAdmin of=20
> >>> this list isn't really active, and therefore, since I don't have email =
> >>> addresses=20
> >>> for the members, everyone would have to move their on their own =
> >>> volition.&nbsp;=20
> >>> </FONT></DIV>
> >>> <DIV><FONT color=3D#08000a></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> >>> <DIV><FONT color=3D#08000a>I've kind of thought about doing this for =
> >>> quite awhile,=20
> >>> but didn't see any sense in duplicating the list.&nbsp; But, since these
> >>> =
> >>> issues=20
> >>> keep festering and apparently won't be corrected, I'm leaning toward =
> >>> creating a=20
> >>> list if people are interested.</FONT></DIV>
> >>> <DIV><FONT color=3D#08000a></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> >>> <DIV><FONT color=3D#08000a>Steve, K8SP</FONT></DIV>
> >>> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
> >>> <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
> >>> [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Bob =
> >>> Martin</A> </DIV>
> >>> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask]
> >>> 
> href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]
> >>> RG</A>=20
> >>> </DIV>
> >>> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, February 28, 2016 5:09 PM</DIV>
> >>> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> My Earlier Posting Regarding ARRL ARES=20
> >>> Newsletter</DIV></DIV>
> >>> <DIV><FONT color=3D#08000a size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV>This is a =
> >>> multi-part message in=20
> >>> MIME =
> >>> 
> format.<BR><BR>------=3D_NextPart_000_0003_01D1724A.D59D0980<BR>Content-T=
> >>> ype:=20
> >>> text/plain;<BR>charset=3D"utf-8"<BR>Content-Transfer-Encoding:=20
> >>> quoted-printable<BR><BR>I just looked at it and it is a mess; MINE =
> >>> format or=20
> >>> something like =3D<BR>that.&nbsp; Have no idea how that happened as I=20
> >>> don=3DE2=3D80=3D99t thing I have =3D<BR>changed any settings lately. =
> >>> Does anyone have a=20
> >>> clue. Several months =3D<BR>ago, I did make a font change to eliminate =
> >>> lots of=20
> >>> equal signs in my =3D<BR>email.<BR>73:<BR>Bob=20
> >>> 
> Martin<BR><BR>------=3D_NextPart_000_0003_01D1724A.D59D0980<BR>Content-Ty=
> >>> pe:=20
> >>> text/html;<BR>charset=3D"utf-8"<BR>Content-Transfer-Encoding:=20
> >>> 
> quoted-printable<BR><BR>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;<BR>&lt;BODY=
> >>> =20
> >>> dir=3D3Dltr&gt;<BR>&lt;DIV dir=3D3Dltr&gt;<BR>&lt;DIV =
> >>> style=3D3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt;=20
> >>> FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000"&gt;<BR>&lt;DIV&gt;I just looked
> >>> =
> >>> at it=20
> >>> and it is a mess; MINE format or something like =
> >>> =3D<BR><BR>that.&amp;nbsp; Have no=20
> >>> idea how that happened as I don=3DE2=3D80=3D99t thing I =3D<BR>have =
> >>> changed=20
> >>> any=3D20<BR>settings lately. Does anyone have a clue. Several months =
> >>> ago, I did=20
> >>> make =3D<BR>a font=3D20<BR>change to eliminate lots of equal signs in my
> >>> =
> >>>
> >>> email.&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&lt;DIV&gt;73:&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&lt;DIV&gt;Bob=20
> >>> 
> Martin&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/D=
> >>> 
> IV&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;<BR><BR>------=3D_NextPart_000_0003_01D17=
> >>> 24A.D59D0980--</BODY></HTML>
> >>>
> >>> ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01D17284.E6876EE0--
> >>>
> >>
> >>

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